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Thursday, 2 December 2010

Det jeg tror nå, er at Axel er med i Olsenbanden

At fetteren min Ove, har fortsatt med Olsenbanden, (en klubb jeg startet, for moro skyld, i 'Ågot-huset', da jeg var guttunge, på begynnelsen av 80-tallet, for mine fettere og kusiner, og katter, og søstera mi Pia), bak min rygg.

Også har den gjengen spredd seg fælt.

Jeg synes det kan virke som at det kan være noe sånt.

Risto ga meg og Axel hver vår øl, i gave, i 2003, (før vi dro ut til bestemor Ingeborg, osv).

Og han hadde fått seg røde Dr. Martin sko, (jeg pleide å gå i svarte sånne, på jobb, på Rimi, osv).

Jeg lurer på om dette kan ha vært en Follo-gjeng som spredde seg.

Hm.

Broren min, Axel, var jo sammen med Heidi fra Son, for eksempel.

Enda broren min jo var en skikkelig Groruddalen-kar, vel, som bodde på Furuset og Vestre Haugen, osv.

Kanskje litt merkelig.

Hva er det som foregår?

Hm

Hvem vet.

Vi får se hva som skjer.

Vi får se.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Jeg husker medlemmene enda.

Katta mi, som het Kitty, var ikke medlem.

Så jeg slutta med det her, før jeg fikk den katten, sommeren jeg fylte 12 år vel.

Så dette var noe jeg holdt på med, når jeg var sånn 9-10 år vel.

Noe sånt.

Kire, det var meg.

Evo, det var fetteren min Ove.

Aip, det var søstera mi Pia.

Enel, det var kusina vår Lene.

Idieh, det var kusina vår Heidi.

Ymmot, det var fetteren vår Tommy.

Ennasus, det var kusina vår Susanne.

Og Isup, det var (den døde) katten min Pusi, (som vel døde i 1981, mens jeg var 10 år gammel).

Og Isup 2, det var Pusi 2, som døde som liten kattunge, fordi faren min sa den kunne klare seg ute, sikkert sommeren 1981.

Og Regit, som var katten Tiger, som var fra samme kull som Pusi 2, og som jeg fikk da Pusi 2 døde, og Tiger levde ihvertfall i en del måneder, før den forsvant sporløst.

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Så vi får se hva som skjer.

Vi får se.

PS 2.

Så hvis noen har fortsatt med dette, så er ikke dette noe jeg har noe med nå.

Dette har ingen som helst forbindelse til meg.

Jeg er uavhengig av min familie, siden cirka 1990, må jeg vel si.

Så jeg vil understreke det, at dette var bare noe jeg dreiv med, når jeg var 9-10 år.

Og jeg var eldst av mange fettere og kusiner, så det var liksom naturlig, at jeg var en slags leder av den gjengen med fettere og kusiner, som vi var.

Bestemor Ågot pleide, da jeg var barn, (på 70-tallet, da jeg egentlig bodde i Mellomhagen på Østre Halsen), å prate til meg, om de andre barnebarna sine, som om jeg var voksen og de var barn.

Så etter det, så ble det bare sånn.

Men men.

Men siden jeg flytta til Oslo, så har jeg nesten ikke hatt noe med Olsen-familien å gjøre.

Siden min søster Pia, fortalte meg, i 1989, (sammen med Christell Humblen og Jan Snoghøj), at min far, Arne Mogan Olsen, hadde misbrukt henne seksuelt, da hun var barn, på 70-tallet.

Så etter det, så har jeg bare hatt med Pia å gjøre, i Olsen-familien, må man vel si, men noen få unntak, når jeg har møtt Ove i Oslo, som kanskje ikke har vært så vellykket.

For jeg har jo da kutta ut Olsen-familien.

(For søstera mi var vel kanskje mer i Ribsskog-familien).

Så jeg har ikke hatt lyst til å ha hatt Ove for nærme.

Så derfor har jeg ikke hatt så mye med Ove å gjøre, som også forrandra seg, fra en nærsynt tegneserie-leser, til en litt mer uhøvla kar, som kræsja biler i fylla, og gikk inn i folks hus og knulla dattera og tømte kjøleskapet, med 'medlemmet sitt', i 'giv akt', mens eieren av huset, også var på kjøkkenet, (ifølge 'røver'-historier, fortalt av Ove, på 90-tallet).

Men jeg ønsket ikke å ha Olsen-familien for nærme, etter at faren min lot meg bo alene fra jeg var ni år, og etter at han hadde også misbrukt søstera mi seksuelt.

Så derfor fortalte ikke jeg noen røverhistorier til Ove.

Den gangen han dro meg med på røverhistorie-kveld, på Underwater Pub, på St. Hanshaugen.

Men men.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Så vi får se hva som skjer.

Vi får se.

Jeg sendte en anmeldelse, av broren min Axel Thomassen, til Politiet i Steinkjer, for barnemishandling




Gmail - Anmeldelse av broren min Axel Thomassen, for barnemishandling










Gmail


Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>




Anmeldelse av broren min Axel Thomassen, for barnemishandling











Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>



Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:44 PM




To:
post.nord-trondelag@politiet.no






Hei,

nå ser jeg på noen bilder, som min mormor, sendte meg, i 2005/2006.

Jeg ser at min halvbror Axel Thomassen, han holder rundt sin ste-fetter, Risto Ingebrigtsen.


Jeg har nettopp vært på storbyferie i London her, og har kjørt min tante Ellen sin bil, i Nevlunghavn, på veier jeg ikke er vant til å kjøre, og er hos bestemor Ingeborg, som var ganske masete.


Så jeg er ikke helt med.

Men jeg følte meg også litt utfryst her, men tankene mine er kanskje i London enda.

Siden jeg kom rett fra ferie der.

Men nå, så tenker jeg at dette må være arrangert, av broren min Axel, i noe nettverk, for å få det til at jeg synes at sånn pedofil-aktig oppførsel er vanlig, eller noe.


Det må være noe konstruert, tror jeg.

For vi var nesten aldri nede i Larvik-området, og besøkte de, for jeg og Axel bodde i forskjellige deler av Oslo.

Så jeg skjønner ikke at han kunne kjenne Risto Ingebrigtsen så bra.


Men jeg merka ikke noen reaksjon, fra han Risto, da min mormor, Ingeborg Ribsskog, tok de her bildene.

Og hun reagerte heller ikke.

Så derfor reagerte ikke jeg heller, for man kan jo ikke se noe på ansiktet til Risto, at han er ukomfortabel, eller noe, synes jeg.


Så han gråt ikke, eller prøvde å ta bort armen, til Axel, eller noe.

Så derfor tenkte jeg kanskje ikke noe på det, annet enn at jeg syntes de oppførte seg rart og unaturlig, for de liksom posterte på en måte, sånn at de så bort da, på en unaturlig måte, som liksom for å fryse ut meg.


Dette var sommeren 2003.

Sommeren 2005, så jobba jeg på gården til min onkel Martin Ribsskog, og Ristos mor, Grete Ingebrigtsen, i Kvelde.

Jeg husker jeg overhørte at Grete sa, at hun ikke visste om hvor mye hun kunne klare å kontrollere ungene sine, fra å unngå å si, (om et eller annet), i Kvelde-bygda.


Men det er klart for meg, at ungene til Grete, Risto, Andrea og Isa, de var under kontroll av hun Grete da, som kontrollerte hva de prata om til andre, tydligvis.

Så jeg mistenker at det kan ha vært noe slags form for barnmishandling involvert her, enten fra min halvbror Axel Thomassen og/eller fra Grete Ingebrigtsen og min onkel Martin Ribsskog.


Dette tenkte jeg på nå, når jeg så den måten Axel holdt rundt Risto her igjen.

Axel var jo i midten av 20-årene vel på det bildet, og Risto gikk vel i en av de første klassene på barneskolen kanskje.


Men jeg har ikke hatt mye med min onkel Martin å gjøre, før etter min mor døde, i 1999, så jeg kjenner ikke han Risto, som er/var Martin sin stesønn, så bra.

Så derfor syntes jeg det er rart, at Axel kjente han så bra, at han holdt armen rundt han.


Her må det ha vært noe muffens, mener jeg.

Så det vil jeg gjerne anmelde.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Min mormor, Ingeborg Ribsskog, skriver på baksiden av bildene, som hun sendte meg, et par-tre år før hun døde, ifjor sommer, hit til England, at bildene er fra 2005.


Men i 2005, så hadde jeg helskjegg, da jeg jobba på den gården, Løvås, husker jeg, for jeg hadde ikke innlagt vann, i den lille, uisolerte hytta, som jeg bodde i da.

Så disse bildene må være fra sommeren 2003.


Jeg kjenner også igjen den grønne t-skjorta, som jeg har under den blå tennisskjorta.

Den kjøpte jeg i London, på storby-sommerferie, uka før det her, eller noe.

Og jeg pleide ikke å kle meg så kult, så den t-skjorta brukte jeg ikke så mye, så dette må ha vært sommeren 2003, mener jeg.


For det er ikke sånn at jeg har kjøpt mange sånne t-skjorter, det var nok bare en, for sånne militærfarga klær, var på moten, husker jeg, sommeren 2003, pga. Irak-krigen eller noe.

Men jeg tenkte jeg måtte nesten kjøpe med noen nye klær fra London, når jeg var der, men jeg var kanskje litt stressa da, derfor kjøpte jeg bare en sånn militær-farga t-skjorte, for jeg fant kanskje ikke så mye andre klær jeg trengte, eller syntes var kule.


Men jeg var litt stressa da, for jeg var ikke så vant til å handle klær i London akkurat, jeg hadde vel ikke da vært i England, siden en ferie i Brighton, hvor jeg var mye i tenårene, i 1990.


Så sånn var det.

Bare kontakt meg hvis det er noe dere eventuelt lurer på i forbindelse med anmeldelsen.





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Jeg sendte en ny e-post angående det vikingskipet i Meols




Gmail - Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester










Gmail


Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>




Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester











Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>



Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:10 PM




To:
fellespost@marmuseum.no


Cc:
emb.london@mfa.no






Hei,

Riksantikvaren har anbefalt meg, å kontakte blant annet dere og Kulturhistorisk museum, om dette.

Men Kulturhistorisk museum svarer ikke, så jeg går videre.

Det gjelder et flott klinkebygget vikinge-langskip, som ligger under parkeringsplassen, til en pub, i the Wirral, i England.


Jeg har pratet med noen som jobber der, og har skrevet om dette på blogg, (etter å ha vært og sett på vikinghavnen i Meols, og fått tips om dette vikingskipet).

Jeg har også vært på vikingkongress i Chester, og forklart om at det skipet burde tas opp av leira, for ingen kan jo se det under leire.


Og det skipet er vel unikt, i England.

Det burde vært på museum, og det var norske vikinger, som ble jaget fra Dublin, som slo seg ned på the Wirral.

Og muligens også vikinger som kom dit rett fra Norge, dette er på vestkysten av England, og grenser til Irskesjøen, like ved Isle of Man osv., hvor de norske vikingene dro.


Så dette langskipet burde vært i et museum, mener jeg.

Men britene er visst mer opptatt av romersk arkeologi.

Så jeg prøver å få tak i ekspertise, (og senere muligens midler), fra Norge.


Britene er redd for at skipet vil råtne, hvis de graver det opp.

Men i Norge, så har vi jo gravet opp mange vikingeskip, og de står i museer.

Mens i England, så har de vel ingen andre vikinge/klinke-bygde skip.


Jeg mener dette er norrøn kultur, siden skipet er klinkebygget.

Kunne dere gitt råd om konservering/utgraving av skipet?

En komite bestemte å ikke grave opp skipet, men det var forskere fra svenske universitet med på den beslutningen.


Og svenske vikinger dro jo østover, så det virker rart, synes jeg, at svenske forskere skulle være med å ta beslutninger om et norsk vikingeskip.

Men nå har jeg altså tatt opp dette temaet igjen, på viking-konferansen, i forrige måned, i Chester.


Så nå burde det være mulig å begynne fra 'scratch', på et nytt prosjekt, som jeg har startet med da.

Jeg kan kontakte puben igjen, og konverserer også med prosjektleder, på det forrige prosjektet, professor Stephen Harding, ved universitetet i Nottingham.


Arkeologen, ved Liverpool National Museum, sa på konferansen, at hvis jeg skaffer midler, så kan han og museet grave opp skipet.

Men han klagde på at det ville råtne, og var ekspert i romersk arkeologi, så om dere kunne gitt mer noe mer tilbakemeldinger her.


For på the Wirral, så er det ingen store byer, det er jo et gammelt norsk vikingland, så det kunne kanskje vært artig fra Norges side, å bidra også, til en konstruktiv løsning på dette prosjektet?

Det er jo snakk om felles kultur, mener jeg, og ingen er vel bedre kompetanse enn nordmenn, når det gjelder vikingskip?


Håper dere kan komme med tilbakemelding på dette.

Jeg tenker også på å kontakte ambassaden i London, om dette.

Vi får se.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>



Hi,

well, I've supported Everton, since I was 7 years old, since my mother, Karen Ribsskog, who had been an au-pair, in the UK, said they were good.

So I think it's enough to support one English football-team.


But I think the Viking-stuff is fun.

Everton is also a bit Norse, since it's from 'eofer', which means wild pig, in Old Norse, and 'ton', is the same as the Norwegian 'tun', which means area around the farm-house.


I'm a refugee you see, and am busy trying to get my rights in Norway and in the UK.

So I haven't got that much time.

I have four blogs, and a website, that I run, where I write about my interests and more:









And this is new site, that I'm working on now:



I'm sorry they are in Norwegian, but I see you sometimes write a bit in Norwegian, like salutations etc.


But I'm from Norway you know, and in Norway we need a bit time to get to know people.

Since I'm from a small place in Norway, called Berger in Vestfold, in Svelvik municipality, (I've also lived in Larvik municipality).


Thanks very much anyway!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:



OK Erik

Next time we will have Labskaus-scouse as we had for the book-launch for
Ingimunds Saga back in 2001, which Trondheim sent their top
people:



If you ring me I can tell you more about what we are
doing.

What about supporting Tranmael? Our Viking team is playing
Hartlepool tonight, kick off 7.45pm.

Steve Harding






From: Erik Ribsskog
[mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 November 2010
12:31
Subject: Fwd:
Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in
Chester


Hi again,


so I have really started my own Viking-project here a bit. :)


I just wanted to level with the Viking-congress, that was on
Saturday, in Chester.


But I'll update and level more, when I know more, from my contact
with the experts in Norway.


Hope this is alright, and sorry that I'm sending so much
correspondence about this!


Thanks again for the good food, on Saturday, even if it wasn't
'speke'-food, I still think it was good food with the chicken balti sandwiches
etc.


Best regards,


Erik Ribsskog





---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date:
Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd:
St. Olave's Church in Chester
To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk


Hi,


here is what the Riksantikvaren in Norway, wrote about the Vikingship on
the Wirral, by the way:





From: Haustveit, Gunvor <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

Date:
2010/10/18

Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip
i England"

To: eribsskog@gmail.com






Hei og takk
for
e-post.




Det er flere
kompetansesentra og forskere som er dyktige på feltet
om vikingskip.
Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum
med
Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk
Institutt for
kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved
Roskilde museum.


Lykke
til!


(Translates to:



Hi and thanks for the e-mail.



There are many competence-centers and scientists who are good at the
field vikingships. I recomend first and foremost: Cultural-historical museum
with the Vkingships-huset, then Norwegian Maritim Museum and Norwegian
Institute for Cultural Heritage Science. In Denmark they have competence at
Roskilde Museum.



Good Luck!).



(This was sent before I read about the project on your website, regarding
this vikingship).




Helsing


Gunvor Haustveit
Informasjonsseksjonen


Riksantikvaren


Postboks 8196
Dep


0034 Oslo


Tlf: + 47 98 20 27 60

www.riksantikvaren.no




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at
11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in
Chester



To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>


Hi,


yes, but if they have vikingships on museums in Norway, they are also
made of wood, and they don't decay.


They even have Vikingship-museums in Northern Germany, that used to
be southern Denmark, as far as I remember.



I've heard that the vikingship is under the _parking-lot_ of the pub,
(like I said on the congress).


But I have contacted, (like I wrote), the University of Oslo,
cultural-historical museum, both before and after the congress, and I hope to
hear back from them soon.



I just went to Meols, to look at the old Viking-harbour, you see, just to
get some fresh air, since I live in the City Centre of Liverpool.


And then I asked one of the 'natives' about where the viking harbour
was, and he also told me, that there was a viking ship, under the pub
there.


And then I went to the pub, the Railway Inn, and spoke with the staff
there, (a woman in her 20's, I think, who almost looked Norwegian, I
think).



And she showed me that there was newspaper-articles on the wall, in the
big pub, and pictures of a viking longship, etc.


I promised I'd write about this on my blog, so that people in Norway
could read about it.



Then I contacted University of Oslo.


But then, later, I read about your desition, to leave the ship under
the clay.


But then, I saw that you had asked universities in Gothenburg and
Stockhome for advise.


And I don't understand why you ask Swedish universities for advise,
regarding Norwegian vikingships.


Because the Swedes went east.


And the Norwegians went to the Irish Sea, etc.


The Swedish Vikings didn't go to England and the Irish Sea, they went
to Russia etc, in the east.


So I thought that project was a bit strange, why involve Swedish
universities in this?


Since there is a rivalary between Sweden and Norway, after many wars,
from the Viking-time and up to modern history.



So that made me a bit sceptical, to that project, when I saw that many
Swedish universities were involved.


My reflex, since I am from Norway, would be not to let Swedes be to
much involved in a Norwegian/(Irish) Viking-project.


But anyway.



But I have contacted the University of Oslo, cultur-historical museum
about this, who the 'riksantikvaren', in Norway, refered me to.


So I'm just waiting to get an answer from them.


And then I'll contact you when and if I hear something back from
them.



Hope this is alright!



Thank you very much for your replies, and sorry that I was a bit late for
the congress, I just missed the Chester-train, and then I had to take the next
train, for Port Ellismere, and change for Chester, so then I was
delayed.



This is mostly because I'm from Norway, that I'm interested in the
congress and the Viking-places on the Wirral, because in Norway, this is
almost like general knowledge, that we learn about on school etc., so this
with Viking-stuff is almost the only thing we take serious in Norway, (except
from skiing).



(Only joking).


But that's why I'm so interested in this.



Thanks again for the reply to my e-mail!


Best regards,


Erik Ribsskog







On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:




Dear
Erik


I was part
of the team that did the Ground Penetrating Radar studies 3 years ago that
appeared to verify the existence of the old vessel and we did discuss this
in detail with the people in Oslo – Arne Christiansen and Knut Paasche of
the skiphuset Bygdoy. The Chair of the afternoon session was Dr. David
Griffiths, distinguished Viking Archaeologist from Oxford, born and brought
up in Heswall and like myself a passionate Wirralian – as he explained in
his talk. All 3 of us – Rob Philpott, David and myself are in total
agreement as to the situation about the boat. Unfortunately you can’t just
go down and expose the boat as the old wood would decay rapidly: this would
be very irresponsible!. Its underneath a pub and near a major road so
unless we can find an estimated 8-10 million pounds, we have to leave it
where it is. Then when we have the money lets go for it! To
repeat what Rob has said, if you have any ideas where we can get this money,
let us know. Believe me we would dearly love to have this excavated
but it just can’t be done at the moment. However we are going to have
a meeting soon but I can’t see – without the money - much else we can do at
the momentThe Friends of Meols Park organisation are having trouble trying
to raise £40,000 for a statue of Ingimund for Meols Park, again if you have
any ideas for funds that would be great.



Nottingham
involvement:


The
organizers of the conference were Liz Royles and myself. Liz: is
Keeper of early archaeology at the Grosvenor Museum at Chester - and was
born and brought up from Meols. Liz did a tremendous job putting on the
exhibition and obtaining the grants so that everyone could attend for free –
and even have free refreshments.


Myself:
Indeed I am now at the University of Nottingham but was born and brought up
in Wirral – near Meols and then Wallasey, and come from 2 very old Wirral
families that go back at least several hundred years, and very proud of this
– if you have a chance please look at my website



even
Tranmere – Tranmael - my team, has a Norwegian name:


http://trsn.blogspot.com/


it would be
great if you could join us!


I have just
written another book with Liverpool FC fan Stig Vaagan from Hamar – det
Norske Liverpool -
Vikinger, DNA og Nåtid, which will
be published soon in Norway, which includes a lot about the Scandinavian
Church on Park Lane: do you know these people there.


I have also
secured an agreement from the people re-constructing the “Drakken” ship of
Harald Harfagre for it to sail to Liverpool and Wirral in 2012/2013 after
the boat is complete and indeed have been trying very hard for the last 10
years to develop the whole areas Viking Heritage.



What about
meeting up for a beer sometime and we can discuss the boat?


All the
best


Steve
Harding




From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 23 November 2010 04:11
To: Stephen
Harding
Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's
Church in Chester






Hi,





I wasn't aware of that there
were boats in clay in Scandinavia.




But, like I wrote in the
earlier e-mail, in Scandinavia, we have a lot of ships in museums from
before.





And they had made 46 trenches
in Irby, and none in Meols, even if Meols is more Norse/Viking, Irby means
town of the Irishmen.





So I question the priorities
here, and as I wrote, and updated the congress about, I have contacted the
University of Oslo, about this.




So I was mostly
summarising, what I said on the congress.




Further, to my
complaint.




I think what happened after
lunch, distroyed the congress.





The chair from University of
Chester was ill, and a new chair, from Nottingham, was a reserve.




I remember it like you only
mentioned his firstname, briefly before the congress started again, after
lunch.





And his field wasn't mentioned
I think.




I understood this to be a
national Viking congress, and not a Nottingham one.





So noone knew who this guy was
or what his field was, (the new chair).




He was a reserve, and
should have toned himself down, I think, due to this, and due to that his
name and field wasn't mentioned in the agenda.





So I think this distroyed the
congress a bit, I'm sorry to say, because the new chair went directly in,
with facts, or 'facts', from Scandinavia, all the time.




Without saying e.g. that
the ship was in Gothenburg, he just said 'Scandinavia'.




And with 't' becomming 'd',
like the young chair said was usual in Scandinavia.




I think that is in Germany,
that 't' becomes 'd', like in 'Donerstag' instead of 'Thursday'.




So my experience of the
congress was distroyed by this new chair, I have to admit, so I wanted to
complain about the congress.




I also think it's strange
that all this Viking-stuff on the Wirral should be run from
Nottingham.





I think one should have a
centre in the Wirral or Chester or Isle of Man, to do with the Norwegian
Vikings.

Because the Norwegian Vikings weren't in Nottingham I
think.




I think a local university,
which is located geografically, in what was Norwegian Viking-territory, in
the UK, should 'run the show' on this.




I think Nottingham was
south of were the Norwegian Vikings lived, in the UK.




I think the Wirral was
obviously a Norwegian Viking-land.




Why don't the Wirral run
the show on this?




Why is the Wirral
Viking-stuff run from Nottingham, (and Chester).





Maybe Chester would be logical,
but was has Nottingham to do with Norweigan Vikings in the Wirral?




This sounds strange to
me.




Also, I think one should
have a specialist in Viking-archology, digging up the Viking-stuff on the
Wirral, because the professor from National Museum Liverpool, in a
specialist in Roman and 'later' archeology.




And he explained that he
thought something was roman, and then someone else came and said that
bird-figure for a weight, was viking.




I don't think this is taken
seriously enough.




Look at the Roman
arcahology, with the Circus etc, in Chester.




You say it isn't proven the
Viking-ship in Meols is Viking.




But it is 'klinke'-buildt,
which means it's Norse.




So I think you try to make
this unclear, the ships origin, it definately Viking/Norse, and not anything
else.

So I question really the whole congress and you at Nottinghams
motivation.





I understand that University of
Oslo or University of Trondheim didn't send any people, it's probably
because they didn't feel welcome.




Sorry that I think I have
to write this direct to put it strange.




But there wasn't much
viking about that congress I think.





Then it should have been served
beer/ale and not wine.




And 'speke'-food, and not
Pakistani samosa-food.




This was not a Norse
Viking-congress I think.




Sorry to say!




Best
regards,

Erik Ribsskog





On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:09
PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:




Thanks Erik, yes we thoroughly
enjoyed the congress, everyone seemed so enthusiastic … and it was great
having a Norwegian at the conference. The books on sale were Vikings in the
Irish Sea (Dr. David Griffiths), Irby (Dr. Rob Philpott) and Viking DNA (by
Turi King, Mark Jobling and myself).



Thanks for modern dynge = heap, but
I will check with Dr. Paul Cavill to see if this can help. Dingesmere:
there are some links to this and Brunanburh on my own Viking page http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve


Boat: yes we’d all love to get this
out, but as Dr. Philpott said it would cost 8-10Million to achieve, but the
boat is perfectly safe in the blue clay until that time comes.. which may
not be for a long time. We don’t know its Viking, all we know its very
old! There are I think boats in blue clay in Scandinavia – one in Karmoy and
one near Gothenburg which have been left for the foreseeable future.
If there are any developments with Wirral we’ll be sure to let you
know,


Hope this helps!


Beste hilsener


Steve Harding




From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 21 November 2010 07:24



Subject: Viking-congress
in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester





Hi,





thanks for arranging the
Viking-congress, which I thought was a very fun idea!





I was just wondering, who was
the chair, after lunch again, (the young man in his 30's with a beard on his
chin or under his mouth, or what it's called).





Because I thought he was a bit
'on' me.





The one who replaced the
professor from Chester who was ill.





I've also sendt to the
professer from National Museums Liverpool and cultural historical museum
Oslo University again, about possible founding or expertice from Norway, for
the vikingship in Meols, which I brought up about, yesterday, on the
congress, after the professor from National Museums Liverpool spoke about
the archeolology in Irby.





Also, I tried to explain about
my contributing regardin the subject of Dingesmere, to do with the big
battle between the Vikings and the English, on the Wirral.





In Norwegian, 'dynge' means
'heap'.




And I thought that could be
relevant, since Norwegian and English once were the same language.




The young chair was an
expert on Scandinavia, (which I'm not I'm just a normal Norwegian, but I've
worked on a viking-farm in Norway, actually, Løvås farm in Kvelde, (where
someone tried to murder me, i 2005, so I went to Liverpool, and the police
wont investigate).





The young chair said that in
Scandinavia 't' often became 'd'.




(This I don't know myself
from being Norwegian, even if I one term at high-school got the best grade,
'S', in Norwegian).





The young chair also said that
vikingships in Norway weren't always dug up.





But, in Norway, we have many
vikingship, in several musums, (like in Denmark etc).





But in the
Wirral/North-England, you haven't got a single vikingship which had been dug
up.




So if it's right that we
have ships like that, under clay, in Norway, then at least we have some
vikingships which we have put in the museum first.




E.g. the Vikingship Museum
in Bygdøy, in Oslo.





Also, I thought I had to
'argue' with two people at the same time, when I spoke.




Because the young chair,
interrupted, my dialog with the two professors, I thought a bit.




So that's why I left before
the book-launch, because I was a bit disapointed in the young chairs
behavour.




So I was just a bit
currious, who the young chair was again.




Because his name wasn't
mentioned on the agenda, since the initial chair, after lunch, the professor
from University of Chester, was ill, if I understood you right, when you
briefly spoke, after lunch, yesterday.





Thank you very much in advance
for any reply!





And thanks again for holding
the Viking-congress, which was very fun, and the Viking-exhibition, at the
Grosvenor Museum, in Chester, was also very fine I think!





Yours sincerely,




Erik Ribsskog








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From: Steve Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, Jul 20,
2009 at 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: St. Olave's Church in Chester
To: Erik
Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>



Dear Erik


Many thanks for your
email. I will write a more detailed reply later but I thought I'd
better point out that the present St. Olave's building is of course not the
original but is probably on the site of an original building which may
have been wooden - we don't know. It is in the southern part
the city which we believe to be the Scandinavian part of Chester
in the 10th Century (and includes the discovery site of a viking treasure
hoard at Castle Esplanade and some timber constructions similar to those in
Dublin). The main area of Norse settlement in the area was in Wirral
where there is extensive place name, archaeological and historical evidence,
including 2 hogback tombstones.


If you get a chance have a look
at my website


http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve


and its links, but I will write
back to you more when I have some more time,


Beste sommerhilsener


Steve Harding





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From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 19 July 2009 19:25
To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: St.
Olave's Church in Chester




Hi,





I'm from Norway, but I live
in Liverpool, and the other day, I was in Chester, and I
coinsidentily



stubled upon, the St. Olave's
Church, since I thought I had to see a bit of the other towns
and



cities, in the North-West,
and not only Liverpool.





I took some pictures of the
church, and posted on my blog.




From the 'sign' there, it
could seem like the church was from the 18th century, so much
was



my surprice, when I searched
on the internet, and found, that the chuch was almost a thousand



years old, built by Norwegian
Vikings who were refugees from Dublin, since they lost control
there,



it seems to me, after reading
on the internet about this.





I read on a blog called
'Ainscough Family History', which I found throug Google, about the
'Viking



march', between the Wirral
and Chester.





So I wrote a comment on that
blog, with questions about the St. Olave's Church, and was
adviced



to contact you.




I was just wondering if
the church is listed, since I don't think we have that old viking
stone-



buildings in
Norway.




We have 'stav'-churches,
in three, but I don't think we have any stone-buildings, that are this
old.





So, I was just curious about
this.




I also wondered if there
had been conflicts between the St. Olave's Parish and the St.
Michaels



Parish, since on one
building, 'Nine Houses', the borded between the parishes, was written
on



the buildings
facade.





And, I was also wondering,
why it isn't a plaque there, explaining about, that the church is
almost



a thousand years old, built
by Vikings from Ireland, because the plaque that's there now,
makes



it almost seem, that the
building was built much later, or, it only least the year the church
was



conserved, in the 18th
century, I think it was.





As I understand, all the part
of Chester, from the main street, and down to river, used to
be



a Viking-district.





I was wondering, on some of
the half timbered houses, I saw some symbols that looked a bit



like what we call
'firkløver', that's four-cleaver, I think, in English, could these symbols
have



been from Norway, or are they
English, since I heard that these black and white half-timbered



houses are 'Tudor-style', so
I guess that the Vikings, in Chester, would have other types of



buildings, that was there,
before the Tudor-style buildings,contemporary with the St.
Olave's



Church?





Sorry that I'm asking a lot
of questions, I understand if you haven't got the time to answer
any



of these questions.




I just coincidentaly
notices this church, when I was in Chester, and thought it was fun, to
see



place-names, and buildings,
named after a Norwegian king, that we learned about at school,



in Norway.




And at school, in Norway,
we, as far as I remember, only learned about that York, or
'Jorvik',



like the Vikings called the
town or city, was a Norwegian Viking-town or city.




But we didn't learn
about, that there were viking setlements, in Cheshire and
Merseyside.




So I wasn't aware of,
that there was Viking-buildings, in Chester, when I went there, so I
was



a bit surprised to see the
church, and read about it on the internet, so that was very fun.





I thought that maybe this
church, could be one of the few buildings etc,. that
remained,



after the Vikings, that had
to leave Ireland.




In Norway, we learn at
school, that Vikings founded Dublin etc., but we don't learn
that



they went to England, after
they lost control in Ireland, so this was fun to learn.




So sorry again that I'm
asking a lot of questions, and thanks in advance, if you have
the



time to explain about any of
the questions which I've ask!




Yours
sincerely,




Erik
Ribsskog



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Her er mer om at i den delen av England, som jeg bor, så er en del folk visstnok etter norske vikinger




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To:
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Dear Colleagues (including many
of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or
the Nordic Festival in 2008)


Apologies if you get this message more
than once!
We are writing to bring to your attention a publication
we have just produced. It focuses on
the first part of a genetic
survey of northern England
the Wirral and West Lancashire project in the northwest – and explains the basis behind the DNA
method to probe ancestry, the use of
surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the country, and
how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with historical,
archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking ancestry. It also gives some examples from
individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show what
these new technologies can achieve.


Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK
Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and
Biological Sciences Research Council) - and Nottingham University Press in
conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us and
indeed done a splendid job.
We would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties
or profit!



The book is introduced with a
brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster Michael Wood after which we set out to
show as clearly as we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA
is and how DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population
ancestry. For probing Viking
ancestry it shows the importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical,
linguistic, place name and archaeological evidence - again with the help of many colour
illustrations
, and explains how DNA can be used to probe paternal
ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of
people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that scientists
use.



A major problem in studying
population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred since
the Industrial Revolution. However
there is a strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book
explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal
records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not
guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions
of northern England. Using these methods significant
Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations)
has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire.
One youngster from Wirral was
so impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School project “My Viking Dad
and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the current testing
of other regions of Northern England and the research currently being undertaken with
colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in the
Viking Age.



This broadcast on BBC Radio 4 gives some more
information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after
the first minute or so)



So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in DNA
ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give people
from other regions an idea of how their own past could be researched. The book is 150 pages long and
extensively illustrated in colour. The book has just become available in all good
bookshops in the north
West or from
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e-post så seint.



Men jeg får prøve da.



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