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Saturday, 29 December 2012

Fler e-poster fra Philip Gabrielsen

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PS.

Linkene ovenfor åpnes i egne vinduer.

PS 2.

Her kan man se det, at til og med Norsk Kulturråd støtter Wikipedia, og ber folk om å bidra, på dugnaden der.

(Kanskje istedet for å drive med egne prosjekter).

Men Wikipedia er jo ikke norsk-eiet, og organisasjonen er ikke så kjent.

(Det finnes jo ikke organisasjonskart, osv).

Og Wikipedia tjener jo penger, (på donasjoner osv.), så å kalle dette dugnad blir kanskje ikke helt riktig.

Og skyggesidene, til Wikipedia.

Nemlig det at man, (hvis man har uflaks ihvertfall), blir behandla som 'dritt' der.

(Som jeg har skrevet om, i tidligere bloggposter, under etiketten 'E-poster fra Philip Gabrielsen').

Det nevnes ikke.

Så jeg vet ikke om man skal snakke om et Wikipedia-hysteri her.

Jeg ville sett for meg Wikipedia som et supplement, til norske kulturprosjekter.

Og ikke som en erstatning.

Men det er kanskje andre som har andre meninger.

Det er mulig.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

PS 3.

Her er mer om dette:

kulturråd bidra

http://www.scribd.com/doc/118350883/Noname-537

Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Amnesty






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Regarding help from Amnesty










Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>




Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:02 PM





To:
SCT@amnesty.org.uk


Cc:
amnestyis <amnestyis@amnesty.org>







Hi,

you at Amnesty have adviced me to contact the Sivilombudsmannen.

But the Sivilombudsmannen isn't doing his job.

E.g. the Norwegian Embassy in London, have stopped replying to me, and the Sivilombudsmannen said I had to be content, since the Foreign Ministry in Oslo, replied to me.


Also, the Sivilombudsmannen ignores that ministers like Kristin Halvorsen in Norway, and her ministry 'Kunnskapsdepartementet', (Ministry of Knowledge), ignores my correspondence, and doesn't reply to me.


Also other ministries are involved.

The Sivilombudsmannen is useless, he doesn't do his job at all.

You at Amnesty have adviced me to contact him.


I want to complain about this poor advice.

How can you advice people to contact useless organisations like Sivilombudsmannen?

Erik Ribsskog



On Fri, Nov 2, 2007 at 12:06 PM, <SCT@amnesty.org.uk> wrote:


Dear Erik


Thank you for your further email. I
am sorry that Amnesty International UK is unable to advise on your situation,
although I have come up with the following link to the website of the Norwegian
Ombudsman, who may be able to help.


http://www.sivilombudsmannen.no/eng/statisk/som.html


I hope you are successful in finding
some assistance.


Best wishes


John Hook

Supporter Care Team

Amnesty International UK
Tel: 020 7033 1777
www.amnesty.org.uk

Amnesty International UK
The Human Rights Action Centre
17-25 New Inn Yard
London
EC2A 3EA






"Erik Ribsskog"
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
30/10/2007 00:48




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cc




Subject


Re: Regarding help from Amnesty








Hi,



thank you very much for your answer!



Are you sure that don't getting help when one are in the
risk of being executed/sacrificed/tortured, isn't

under the cathegory 'cruel, inhuman
or degrading treatment', like you are mentioning in your e-mail?



I also suspect that this case falls under this point:
'ending extra-judicial executions and "disappearances"'.



At least this is how it seems to me, even if these things
can be difficult to document sometimes I

guess, at least before it has happened.




But not getting help from the government is a specific
human rights violation.



Your Norwegian section, answered me that they can't investigate
crime-cases, which was not what I

asked them for advice on at all.



So I don't understand how they could be right, since they didn't even understand
the problem.



The problem was lack of help from the Government, and
also harassment, probably 'set ups' from the

Government, and that they speculate, in not answering
e-mails etc.



And it seem like someone have instructed my bank, not to give me a loan
or an overdraft as well.



And the Government isn't informing me on what's goving
on, even it's clear to me that I'm followed

by mafia, like I've heard it being said.



And also, even if the company I used to work in is/was
full of criminals, I guess mafia/mob, and

the Police are only pretending that nothing is going on,
and are keeping me in the dark about all

this.



So without me being an expert on human rights, I can't
see it differently, than that the Government

must be breaching my human rights, and I haven't managed
to get any help regarding this.



But since you are working with human rights issues, then
maybe you know a bit about how to

deal with problems like this, so maybe you could give
me some advice regarding who I should

contact, or how should go forward with cases like this?



I understand that you aren't working on cases were human
rights are being breached by Governments(?)



And I know that I've already written an e-mail to you
regarding this.



But I thought I'd try just once more, to hear if you knew about any organisations
who deals with problems

involiving human rights being breached by Governments,
in the way I've explained in this e-mail.



Thanks in advance for any help!



Yours sincerely,



Erik Ribsskog



On 10/29/07, SCT@amnesty.org.uk
<
SCT@amnesty.org.uk>wrote:



Dear Erik,


Thank you for your email.



However, I'm afraid that the Norwegian Section is correct as the issue
you raise does not fall within our mandate.

Amnesty International works on specific human rights violations, and our
mission focuses in particular on:

  • campaigning to abolish the death penalty,

  • torture, and other forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment;


  • ending extra-judicial executions and
  • "disappearances";

  • protecting the human rights of refugees
  • and asylum seekers;

  • protecting the human rights of non-combatants
  • in armed conflicts;

  • working for fair and prompt trials for
  • all political prisoners;

  • seeking the release of all prisoners
  • of conscience.




    Of course there are many other issues of concern around the world, but
    Amnesty does not have the resources to work on every issue.


    The issues we work on are decided by our membership through our internal
    democratic decision-making processes.


    I hope that you may be able to find some assistance from another organisation.




    Rachel Armitage


    Supporter Care Team
    Amnesty International UK
    Tel: 020 7033 1777


    www.amnesty.org.uk

    Amnesty International UK
    The Human Rights Action Centre
    17-25 New Inn Yard
    London
    EC2A 3EA





    "Erik Ribsskog"
    <
    eribsskog@gmail.com>
    26/10/2007 02:47






    To


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    cc




    Subject


    Regarding help from Amnesty










    Hi,

    I'm a Norwegian living in Britain, and I've been in contact with the Norwegian
    department of Amnesty,
    regarding lack of respect from the Government in connection with human
    rights issues.

    What I've contacted them about, was that the Norwegian Government, (Politidirektoratet/justisdepartementet),

    isn't answering my e-mails.

    And also the 'Spesialenheten' (the Norwegian equivalent of ipcc), have
    been using more than six months,
    and have still not decided if they are going to investigate my complaint
    against representatives from
    the Norwegian special police 'Kripos', or not.

    So it's obvious that they are delaying this.

    This might not seem so important, but the point is, that this is in regards
    to me being followed by organised
    criminals or mafia, in both Norway and Britain.

    And the point is, that this can lead to people being killed/executed/tortured.


    And also, if the police is aware of this, like the Norwegian police are,
    since I've told them, and still don't help,
    maybe they have problems getting evidence against the criminals/mafia,
    and then hope that they will kill,
    so that they will get evidence in that way. (I would call it people sacrifice).


    This is how it seems to me that it must have been, or still is, for all
    that I know.

    And I contacted the Norwegian department of Amnesty, earlier this week,
    but they only said that Amnesty
    wasn't dealing with investigating crime.

    But that's not at all what I contacted them about, I contaced them about
    the problem that the Government
    are ignoring peoples rights, with the consequense that people can end up
    murdered/tortured etc.

    So I think, since they are working with human-rights issues, on a daily
    basis, then I can't really understand,
    how it could be possible for them to not understand what I was contacting
    them about.

    So I'm a bit worried that something might be wrong in the Norwegian Amnesty
    department.

    And this case is also linked to Britain, so I was wondering if it's right
    that Amensty aren't dealing with
    serious breaches of human rights from Governments.

    And also how I should go forward if I wanted to complain about the Norwegian
    of Amnesty, since it seems to
    me that something must be wrong there.

    And I think that this would be serious, since I've always thought that
    Amnesty is an important organisation,
    and that you are doing valuable work around the world.

    I'm also going to forward you copies of the correspondence I've been having
    with the Norwegian deparment
    of Amnesty regarding this.

    I know that they are in Norwegian, but I'm sending them anyway, just for
    formalitys sake.

    I hope that this is alright, and I hope that you have the chance to have
    a look at this!

    Thank you very much for your help in advance!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog












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    Fler e-poster fra Philip Gabrielsen

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    PS.

    Linkene ovenfor åpnes i egne vinduer.

    PS 2.

    Etter å ha lest 'dagens bolke' med 'Philip Gabrielsen e-poster', så la jeg merke til blant annet det, at Wiki-administrator Jeblad aka. John Erling Blad, som har vært mye omtalt, på johncons-blogg, i forbindelse med blokkeringen av meg, på Wikipedia.

    (Og vel også etter at Blad har trakassert meg, på Twitter, hvis jeg husker det riktig.

    Og Øivind Sæther aka. Xiando har vel også publisert en del negative ting, om John Erling Blad aka. Jeblad, på sitt nettsted Xiandos Information, hvis jeg husker det riktig).

    Så la jeg merke til, at Jeblad skriver på dette lukkede forumet, at han faktisk er ansatt, i Wiki.

    Og han har også en dobbeltrolle, (sånn som jeg ser det).

    For selv om han er ansatt, i Wiki, så redigerer han også artikler, som en vanlig bruker.

    Så Wikipedia sliter kanskje med en del dobbeltroller her, (kan det virke som, for meg).

    Og en ting jeg som 'mobbeoffer' på Wikipedia har savnet.

    Det er et organisasjonskart.

    Wikipedia har liksom Wiki-en, men den er litt vanskelig å finne fram på, noen ganger, for nye brukere, synes jeg.

    Hva med å ha et 'vanlig' nettsted og, med kontaktinformasjon og organisasjonskart, osv.

    For det er vel et paradoks, at Wikipedia, som handler om å presentere informasjon, er så lite flinke, til å presentere informasjon, om sin egen organisasjon, som ihvertfall jeg synes at de er.

    (Siden jeg ikke har klart å finne ut at Jeblad er ansatt i Wiki.

    Og siden jeg ikke har klart å finne organisasjonskart, for Wikipedia.

    Og siden de har dette lukkede forumet, hvor de tar opp ting.

    Ting som vel like gjerne kunne ha blitt tatt opp i åpenhet?).

    Så sånn er det.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS 3.

    Her er mer om dette:

    jeblad dobbeltrolle

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/118265532/Noname-470

    PS 4.

    Man kan også se det, at når engelsk Wikipedia får tyn, på et norsk nettsted, (for at de ikke blokkerer folk som Meco fra Xiandos Information), så blir de norske wikipedianerne stolte, og tar dette som 'kudos'.

    Så man ser igjen, (mener jeg), at de norske Wikipedianerne lever i sin egen 'andedam', og ikke har noe særlig fellesskap, med wikipedianere, fra andre land.

    Snarere tvert imot, må man vel si, at det virker som.

    Så sånn er nok det.

    PS 5.

    Her er mer om dette:

    får kudos

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/118269169/Noname-487

    PS 6.

    Denne artikkelen, fra Document.no, (som er nevnt i PS 4 og PS 5), ser norske wikipedianere på som kudos, selv om den rakker ned på engelsk Wikipedia:

    kudos wiki

    http://www.document.no/2012/05/wikipedia-nar-konspirasjonsteoretikere-far-r=edigere-et-nettleksikon/

    PS 7.

    Man kan også se det, at når man er ny, på Wikipedia, så får man ofte klint på seg, en slags fadder.

    Dette husker jeg at jeg syntes at ble som noe ekstra 'herk', som man måtte vende seg til, når man var ny, på Wikipedia.

    Dette tror jeg ikke var med fra starten av, på Wikipedia.

    Og jeg lurer på om dette er noe sære greier, som norske wikipedianere, har funnet på?

    Jeg syntes ihvertfall det, (som voksen mann), at det ble litt 'svett', å ha en sånn 'fadder', hengende over ryggen sin, når man skulle bidra, på Wikipedia.

    Og hvordan blir man kvitt en slik fadder igjen, egentlig?

    (Hvis man egentlig ikke vil ha en sånn fadder, fra starten av, mener jeg).

    Nei, det tror jeg er nesten umulig, etter at dette først har blitt tatt opp, her og der, i Wikipedias kriker og kroker.

    Og seinere, hvis man så vil klage, på faddere eller andre, på Wikipedia.

    Så møter man ofte lite forståelse, fra wikipedianerne.

    Ting som er klagegrunn, i for eksempel arbeidslivet.

    Det ser kanskje ikke wikipedianerne på som klagegrunn, da.

    Og ting som trusler om å ta noen til retten, (som vel går under ytringsfriheten, i det daglige liv), det ser wikipedianerne på som grunn, til å blokkere deg, fra Wikipedia, da.

    (Som nettopp den Document.no-artikkelen, i PS 6, nevner).

    Så Wikipedia er litt sært, må man vel si.

    Ihvertfall når man havner inne i deres system, for å bidra, på nettleksikonet.

    Man må gjennom en slags overgang, fra vanlig menneske, til wikipedianer, (kan man vel kanskje si).

    Og i denne overgangsfasen, så kan man bli tulla mye med da, av mer erfarne wikipedianere.

    Og så bli blokkert av disse, på grunn av nybegynnerfeil, som har blitt blåst opp, og seinere blir brukt mot en, sånn at man blir blokkert, hvis man etter dette, prøver å bidra med en eneste bokstav, på nettleksikonet.

    (Som jeg har nevnt i tidligere bloggposter, om 'Philip Gabrielsen e-postene').

    Så sånn er det.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Men men.

    PS 8.

    Her er mer om dette:

    en slags fadder

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/118267565/Noname-476

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