Hi,
I was at a meeting at Jet Liverpool today, with Mr. Carlos Pineda, Guidance Officer, Adult Learning Service, Ethnic Minority Employability Project.
We agreed, that I'd contact Naric, regarding my degrees from Norway.
I have degrees at both level 3 and level 5/6.
I send about this in different e-mails, first about the level 3 degrees, then I think it's easier to keep the overviev.
I went three years on Upper Secondary Business School, in Norway, from 1986 to 1989.
For all of these three years, I got a 'vitnemål', that's a (school leaving) certificate.
These I think must be at National Diploma-level.
The first year, I graduated in 'Grunnleggende handels og kontorfag', which means 'Basic commerce and office-knowledge'.
The second year, I graduated, in 'Markedføring', that's Marketing.
The third year, I graduated in 'Informasjonsbehandling', that's Information Management.
The third year, I had an optional subject, 'Matematikk', that's Maths, (even if we had an a bit un-structurised teacher, in that subject, I'd say, so I only got a 2, as a grade, but that's still a pass).
So, since I passed in maths, as an optional subject, then I got a qualification, called 'generell studiekompetanse', earlier called 'examen artium', in Norway.
(I think this is what you call A-levels, in the UK).
I didn't get this in writing, from my Upper Secondary School.
But I got matriculated, at the University of Oslo, in 1991.
(Since I had a rest-year, from the Information Management University College, which I studied on then, NHI.
And then I got a job in a shop, to save up money for further full time studies.
And then I wanted to try to use my mind a bit more as well, since I only sat in the check out in the shop, and I was a bit curios about what 'Examen Philosoficum' was, at the University of Oslo, so I studied there.
So the Univeristy of Oslo, can confirm that I have this qualificiation, (I'm sending a copy of their letter), called 'generell studiekompetanse'/'examen artium'/A-levels.
Which that I can study at (Norwegian) universities.
So these three years at Upper Secondary School in Norway, they gave me three certificates/National Diplomas and one academic qualification, (examen artium/generell studiekompetanse).
So I was wondering it I could then please get these transfered to English degrees/qualifications.
Because I'm not sure that e.g. the Jobcentre, understand my Norwegian degrees/qualification.
(It would then be three National Diplomas I'd guess:
- One in Basic Commerce and Office-knowledge/work.
- One in Marketing.
- One in Information Management.
- And also an academic qualification, that means I can study at unversities, (A-levels?).
I hope you have the chance to look at this!
Thank you very much in advance, for any help!
I'm also going to send you another e-mail, about my level 5/6 qualifications/degrees/grades.
But I send two different e-mails, about this, since I think it helps with keeping the overview, regarding this.
Hopes this is alright!
I enclose scanned copies of the three certificates, and the letter from the University of Oslo, regarding the academic qualification, 'generell studiekompetanse'/A-levels(?).
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM Subject: Update/Fwd: Complaint about Jet Employability Team/Fwd: Update/Fwd: IT Manager To: Jet@liverpool.gov.ukCc: carlos.pineda@liverpool.gov.uk
Hi,
I was at Jet job-bank today, and spoke with Mr. Carlos Pineda, Guidance Officer, Adult Learning Service, Ethnic Minority Employabilitiy Project.
We discussed my complaint.
And I explained that the Jobcentre gave me grief, because they say that my degree from Norway, is at level 4, while Jet and Direct Gov say it's at level 5.
So we agreed I'd contact Naric, about this, (and to see if my grades from two University Colleges in Norway are enough to get a Bachelor Degree, etc).
I appolised for that I think I perhaps over-reacted a bit in my compaint.
It's just that I'm a bit stressed from being un-employed, and the Jobcentre are giving me a bit grief regarding this and other issues.
So we agreed that this complaint was now solved, with the new information I got the meeting today.
Thank you very much for your help with finding out which level my degrees from Norway are!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>Date: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:22 PM
Subject: Complaint about Jet Employability Team/Fwd: Update/Fwd: IT Manager To: Jet@liverpool.gov.ukHi,
I was sent by Gill, from JET in Walton, to Jet employability team, last month.
They didn't want to transfer my degree, to a UK degree, so I now strugle, when I apply for work, and the Jobcentre says I'm at level 4, when I'm really at level 5 or 6.
I think I really have a level 6, (bachelor), degree.
But Jet Employability Team, didn't want to look at my files thorowly, but were almost hostile, I think, (maybe because I'm white, since all of the people in that office were coloured).
And they didn't want to transfer my degrees from Upper Secondary School eighter.
They only wanted to look at one file, and that was it.
But I also have a file from another University College, where I almost got a degree.
So I think this really-really is like a Bachelor-degree.
But I don't think the person at Jet employability team, seemed qualified to judge this.
It seemed like he had enough with finding Norway on the screen.
Is it any way I could get this looked at properly?
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
Date: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:47 PM Subject: Update/Fwd: IT Manager To: Lesley.Sloan@alfa.comHi,
sorry that I'm sending this many e-mails.
But you see, I'm from Norway, so I'm not used with 'fancy' sections on the CV, called things like 'Personal Profile', and 'Skills'.
So it could be that I get my CV a bit wrong now.
And the Jobcentre, Working Links etc., they tell me things like to have those sections, and that the CV shouldn't be more than two pages, and to only write work-experience from the last 10-15 years.
So I've changed the CV a lot of times now.
But I think it's maybe best for me, to just have a very basic style of CV, like I've learned in Norway.
Since CV really means Curriculum Vitea, which means a description of how one have lived ones life.
As far as I understand.
So really, I'm not sure if the 'fancy' sections should be on the CV, originally.
And to cut out pieses of one's work-experience, on one's CV, isn't really true to the original nature of a CV, which means a descripiton of what one have done, in one's life.
So I think the Jobcentre, and Working-links are a bit silly, perhaps.
But you have given me valueable feed-back.
Thank you very much for the feed-back!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
Date: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:05 PM Subject: Re: IT Manager To: Lesley Sloan < Lesley.Sloan@alfa.com> Hi,
well, I've studied IT for four and a half years at university-level, so I think I have some skills.
I've also worked with system development, in 1993, even if maybe that isn't on my CV, since it's many years ago.
But thank you anyway for your reply.
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Lesley Sloan <Lesley.Sloan@alfa.com> wrote:
Dear Erik
Thank you for your application for the position of IT Manger at Alfa Aesar, Heysham.
Unfortunately your skills and experience do not meet our specifications and therefore we will not be pursuing your application further.
In the meantime I would like to thank you for your interest in the position and indeed Alfa Aesar and I wish you every success in securing suitable employment in the future
Many Regards
Lesley Sloan
HR Manager
Alfa Aesar
A Johnson Matthey Company Shore Road Port of Heysham Industrial Park Heysham Lancs. LA3 2XY Phone 01524 862241 Email lesley.sloan@alfa.com
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>>> Erik Ribsskog < eribsskog@gmail.com> 28/07/2010 15:59 >>>
Hi,
I read about this vacancy, on the Jobcentre Plus website.
I have a degree from Norway, in IT, from 2009, which is comparable with a Higher National Diploma, here in the UK, and I've also studied Information Management, at university-level in Norway, for two years, in addition to this.
I also have degrees from Upper Secondary Business-school, in Norway, in Basic Commerce and Office-work, Marketing and Information Management, which are comparable with National Diplomas here.
I've also worked as a manager, in Norway, for ten years, in one of Norways biggest food shop-chains, Rimi, (owned by ICA), so I'm used with working with management and customer support.
I attach my CV, and hope to hear back from you!
Yours sincerely,
Erik Ribsskog
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