Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email dated 23.04.2012
All the information you need to start an application is here:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p-applying/p-apply.htm
Please also see the booklets on the right-hand side. An example of how a patent specification should be set out starts at page 15 of the application Guide.
Yours sincerely,
John Hurley
Information Centre
Intellectual Property Office.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 April 2012 16:02
To: Information
Subject: Re: Update/Fwd: Patent
Hi,
well, I think that when it's an invention in the industry e-commerce, which is on the internet and therefore not physical, then it should be obvious that the invention isn't physical eighter.
I think it sounds a bit strange if one can't patent inventions because they are digital and not physical.
And also, like I explained in one of my earlier e-mails I think I can explain why I don't apply at once, because I've been very busy and haven't known about patents in detail earlier.
It isn't right that only professors, (who has learned about patents at University can apply for patents, I think).
I've gone to the University of Sunderland, Faculty of Applied Sciences, and have learned about research there, but we didn't learn about patents, (but I had some problems with the study-loan bank in Norway etc., so that took some of my attention away from the studies).
Further, I wasn't joking when I wrote that I have invented a new industry.
Automated crossword-production.
This invention does for crosswords what book-printing does for books.
Cross-word-writers doesn't have to sit all day any longer like if they were monks in the dark ages.
Now they can just use my invention and the crosswords are made automaticaly.
(After some fine-tuning/re-development to make my invention more commercial, but the invention works at todays date, it's with NITH, and academy in Oslo, I made it in 1991/92, on a Final Year Project, (Module-name: O39/O40), Name on Project : Kryssordkompilator.
I've later not had much time for dealing with things like this.
I had to go to my conscription-service, in the Norwegian Army, in the infantery there, just weeks after finishing the invention.
And there they didn't understand.
When I told my platoon-leading-officer, Sverre Frøshaug, that I had to call my acadamy, (then called NHI), then he started talking about if this was important enough, when we were at an infantery-exersice, in a mountain-area near Kongsberg.
So I didn't get to call NHI, and after that nothing has happened, because then I didn't get to go on a scheduled meeting, regarding the invention, with Ole Øren, head-master, NHI.
Of course it was important, that I called NHI, or else I wouldn't have asked.
So I didn't know what to ansver Sverre Frøshaug then, when he asked me this, on the bus, back to the army-base, in Elverum, where also British Royal Marines, (I think they are), go to practice skiing, in the winters, and compete with us conscription-soldiers from Norway.
So I wondered about how I go forward to apply for a patent for the industry/invention, which I've invented.
Yours sincerely,
Erik Ribsskog
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Information <Information@ipo.gov.uk> wrote:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email dated 20.04.2012
If you apply for a patent in the UK you would need to have in mind an invention that has a physical feature, or features, that you can list and describe (and therefore which we could search) that you believe are new and inventive. 'New' means not having been made publicly available anywhere prior to the day of filing. 'Inventive' means the invention should include an inventive step and not be something could be merely regarded as obvious by someone with a background in that type of industry.
I think it may be possible to patent software in the USA, but I would advise that you go to www.uspto.org for more information.
The email address is:
IP.Policy@uspto.org
If you are in the UK, the best person to speak to regarding patentability would be a Patent Agent. These are Solicitors who specialise in intellectual property. The Governing body - the Chartered Institute of Patent Agents - hold free advice clinics around the country: please go to www.cipa.org.uk
Yours sincerely,
John Hurley
Information Centre
Intellectual Property Office.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 20 April 2012 16:50
To: Information
Subject: Update/Fwd: Patent
Hi,
I read up a bit more about Software Patents now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patents_under_United_Kingdom_patent_law
To use the same termonology, used in the Wikipedia-article, linked to above, I think I would call the method I want to patent an invention in the field/industry of E-Commerce.
Hope this is easier to understand now!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:40 PM
Subject: Fwd: Patent
To: Information@ipo.gov.uk
Hi,
Wikipedia mentions Software patents:
In modern usage, the term patent usually refers to the right granted to anyone who invents any new, useful, and non-obvious process, machine, article of manufacture, or composition of matter. Some other types of intellectual property rights are also referred to as patents in some jurisdictions: industrial design rights <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_design_rights> are called design patents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patents> in the US, plant breeders' rights <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_breeders%27_rights> are sometimes called plant patents, andutility models <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_model> and Gebrauchsmuster <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebrauchsmuster> are sometimes called petty patents or innovation patents. The additional qualification utility patent is sometimes used (primarily in the US) to distinguish the primary meaning from these other types of patents.
Examples of particular species of patents for inventions include biological patents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_patent> , business method patents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_method_patent> , chemical patents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_patent> and software patents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patent> .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
Is this only in the US?
Thanks in advance for any reply!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
PS.
This patent is really not web design only, it's more a method, I think one should call it.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Patent
To: Information <Information@ipo.gov.uk>
Ok,
thank you very much for the reply.
Then I understand that this is about copyright.
Thanks again for the help!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Information <Information@ipo.gov.uk> wrote:
Dear Erik
Thank you for your enquiry.
Unfortunately websites and processes related to them are not protectable by a patent <http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p-about/p-whatis.htm> in the United Kingdom.
A patent protects new physical inventions and covers how things work, what they do, how they do it, what they are made of and how they are made. It gives the owner the right to prevent others from making, using, importing or selling the invention without permission.
The actual software you have used on your website may be protected under copyright <http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-about.htm> if it was created by you however the idea of how to view and purchase items online is not protectable by UK intellectual property laws.
I hope this helps with your enquiry. If you have any more queries, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours Sincerely
Andrew Reith
Information Centre
IP Advisor
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-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 20 April 2012 13:15
To: Information
Subject: Patent
Hi,
I have developed a web-shop myself, where one have to point on the pictures, of the goods, with the mouse-arrow, and then you get to read the product-information.
Then you just click to put the item in the shopping-basket:
http://www.goodyshop.co.uk/
I also have a Norwegian shop: http://www.godtebutikken.net/, and I've sold about 100 packets to Norway now.
So the shop works fine.
I wonder if I should register a patent on the way one buy the products, since I think that's a unique solution, which I haven't seen anywhere else, and which works fine.
I'm going to go to the bank again to try to get a business-loan, and then I'm going to try to register this patent.
I just wanted to send this initial e-mail, to document that I've started working with this a bit.
Hope this is alright!
Yours sincerley,
Erik Ribsskog
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