To: Sarah.Brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk Sarah Brown
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:50:23 +0000
Subject: Re: IPCC Case Reference 2007/017332
Hi,
like I wrote, I'm going to need a bit of time to think this through.
There is also the issue with the psd wanting an answer before Christmas
regarding the letter I asked the ipcc about
in the e-mail from 5/12:
' found that I had to contact you again, since I haven't heard anything from
Mr. Gibbs, and in the meantime, I've recieved one letter from the Merseyside
Police Complaints Investigation Bureau,
from 03/12 (it also says that they sent a letter on 23/11, but I can't see
that I have recieved
that letter).'.
That I sent Joanne Fitzgerald at the ipcc.
It's the letter from the Merseyside Police Complaints Investigation Bureau,
that I'm also wondering about now,
since they needed an answer before Christmas.
And I haven't heard anything back from the ipcc regarding this, even I sent
the e-mail on 5/12.
So now this is to late already, to send a letter or do anything, since the
police needed a reply before Christmas,
and the ipcc have yet to get back to me regarding this.
So I was wondering what has been going on regarding this.
Thank you very much in advance for your reply!
Yours sincerely,
Erik Ribsskog
On 1/2/08, Sarah Brown
>
> Dear Mr Ribsskog,
>
> Thank you for your email. I am unable to comment about the different
> email addresses you have been given by the police as my role is to provide
> information about the complaints process.
>
> Please re read the information I have provided you regarding the
> complaints process and decide whether you wish to continue with this
> process. If you do decide to continue please contact me with your consent
> to forward the details of your complaint to the Professional Standards
> Department. Please note that without your consent I am unable to assist you
> further regarding this matter.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> *Sarah Brown*
> *Casework Manager*
> *Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)*
> *90 High Holborn, London WC1V 6BH*
> *Phone: 0207 166 3934*
> *sarah.brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk*
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 02 January 2008 16:22
> *To:* Sarah Brown
> *Subject:* Re: IPCC Case Reference 2007/017332
>
>
> Hi,
>
> but now it is to late, because the psd department was expecting an answer
> before Christmas, and I didn't
> get this email before today.
>
> Even if I sent the e-mail about this, right away, after the meeting in
> November.
>
> I would have to think a bit on how I should go forward with this, since I
> haven't really got any confidence in
> the department after the last harassment-episode, and the problems with
> the department having two e-mail
> addresses.
>
> I work as a company researcher now, and if a company has got two different
> general enquiery email addresses,
> then it means that something is wrong, and I wouldn't be adding the
> company for the business-directory, since I
> would think it was not a proper/thrustworthy company.
>
> Then I wouldn't have recomended the company to the customers of the
> directory, if the company had two different
> official general enquiery email addresses, there should really just be
> one.
>
> It's like the IPCC should have this e-mail address:
>
> *enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk*
>
> and this e-mail address:
>
> enquiries.@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk
>
> And claiming that both of them were the real, official e-mail address.
>
> Then I wouldn't have trusted the ipcc, or recomended them to eg. other
> people/companies etc.
>
> So I need a bit of time to think this through.
>
> I'm not so used with dealing with things like this.
>
> Hope that this is alright, and thanks in advance for the reply!
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Erik Ribsskog
>
>
>
>
> On 1/2/08, Sarah Brown
> >
> > Dear Mr Ribbsskog,
> >
> > Thank you for contacting the Independent Police Complaints Commission
> > (IPCC).
> >
> > As stated in my previous email to you, with regards to your lose of
> > confidence in the police investigation into your complaint. Unfortunately
> > whilst the police are conducting an investigation into your complaint the
> > IPCC is unable to intervene and is not able to dictate which department
> > carries out this investigation. You will need to speak to the Professional
> > Standards Department (PSD) of Merseyside Police to discuss further.
> >
> > It is the responsibility of the PSD to resolve your complaint and this
> > may involve them contacting you to establish further facts and understand
> > what you would like to happened as a result of making a complaint. If you
> > do not wish to meet face to face with an officer then you may wish to
> > consider writing to the department instead. I would suggest that you make
> > contact with the PSD to advise them of your preferred method of contact.
> >
> > It is your decision if you wish to continue with the complaints process.
> >
> > If you would like to proceed with the next stage of your complaint
> > please provide your consent on the form I sent to your postal address on the
> > 30 November 2007 or you can send an email . Your consent will allow me
> > to forward your complaint details to the Professional Standards Department
> > of the Merseyside Police for their consideration.
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > *Sarah Brown*
> > *Casework Manager*
> > *Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)*
> > *90 High Holborn, London WC1V 6BH *
> > *Phone: 0207 166 3934*
> > *sarah.brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk*
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* 23 December 2007 20:09
> > *To:* Sarah Brown
> > *Subject:* Fwd: IPCC Case Reference 2007/017332
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I can't see that I have recieved a reply to this e-mail yet, that's why
> > I'm trying to send it again.
> >
> > Hope that this is alright!
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > Erik Ribsskog
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Erik Ribsskog <>
> > Date: Dec 11, 2007 3:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: IPCC Case Reference 2007/017332
> > To: Sarah Brown <>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > thank you very much your answer!
> >
> > But the Standards Unit don't even know their own e-mail address.
> >
> > And when I go there to discuss the complaint against the Police, then
> > I'm being harassed.
> >
> > I'm not sure if it's right that I should go back to the meetings with
> > the Police then.
> >
> > I think that would like saying that I liked to be harassed, and thats
> > not what I mean at all.
> >
> > Do you understand what I mean now?
> >
> > Thank you very much again for your answer!
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > Erik Ribsskog
> >
> >
> > On 12/11/07, Sarah Brown
> > >
> > > Dear Mr Ribsskog,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your emailed dated 07 December 2007.
> > >
> > > Your new complaint will need to be raised separately from your current
> > > appeal. This is so that if the police are unable to resolve the matter to
> > > your satisfaction you then have the right of appeal to the IPCC.
> > >
> > > With regards to your lose of confidence in the police investigation
> > > into your complaint. Unfortunately whilst the police are conducting an
> > > investigation into your complaint the IPCC is unable to intervene and is not
> > > able to dictate which department carries out this investigation. You will
> > > need to speak to the Professional Standards Department (PSD) of Merseyside
> > > Police to discuss further.
> > >
> > > If you would like to proceed with the next stage of your complaint
> > > please provide your consent on the form I sent to your postal address on the
> > > 30 November 2007. Your consent will allow me to forward your complaint
> > > details to the Professional Standards Department of the Merseyside Police
> > > for their consideration.
> > >
> > > Yours sincerely,
> > >
> > > *Sarah Brown*
> > > *Casework Manager*
> > > *Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)*
> > > *90 High Holborn, London WC1V 6BH *
> > > *Phone: 0207 166 3934*
> > > *sarah.brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk *
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
> > > *Sent: *07 December 2007 16:14
> > > *To:* Sarah Brown
> > > *Subject:* TRIM: Re: IPCC Case Reference 2007/017332
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > thank you very much for your answer!
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if you think that this case should be dealt with together
> > > with the other compalaint and appeal-case (see the last e-mail I sent your
> > > collegue).
> > >
> > > And I was also enquiering, in connection with the e-mail I sent some
> > > weeks ago, were I explained that I seem to have lost a bit
> > > of confidence with the police department conducting the investigation,
> > > so I was wondering if you think that it would maybe be
> > > possible for another department to handle the complaint and appeal,
> > > like I've enquiered about earler.
> > >
> > > And I havn't recieved an answer to this enquiery.
> > >
> > > And I was wondering if I maybe should have had receved such an answer,
> > > because, now I'm not sure how to reply to the
> > > Merseyside Police, regarding the letter that I sent a scanned copy of,
> > > with the e-mail to your collegue.
> > >
> > > So I was wondering who I should contact, if I was wondering how to go
> > > forward with this.
> > >
> > > Hope that this is alright, and thanks in advance for the help!
> > >
> > > Yours sincerely,
> > >
> > > Erik Ribsskog
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/7/07, Sarah Brown
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr Ribsskog,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for contacting the Independent Police Complaints
> > > > Commission (IPCC). Miss Joanne Fitzgerald has asked me to reply to your
> > > > email regarding your new complaint. If I could inform you that Miss
> > > > Fitzgerald no longer works within the casework department of the Commission
> > > > and so will no longer have involvement in the handling of your complaints.
> > > >
> > > > I am the Casework Manager for your new complaint surrounding
> > > > issues you raised about a female front desk staff member at the Walton Lane
> > > > Police Station. If you would like to continue with the next stage of the
> > > > complaints process please provide your consent on the form that I sent you
> > > > on the 30 November 2007. Once your consent has been received I will forward
> > > > your complaint details to the Professional Standards Department of the
> > > > Merseyside Police for consideration.
> > > >
> > > > Please note that the details of your new complaint have been noted
> > > > under reference : 2007/017332. Please quote this reference when contacting
> > > > the IPCC regarding your new complaint.
> > > >
> > > > Yours sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > *Sarah Brown*
> > > > *Casework Manager*
> > > > *Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)*
> > > > *90 High Holborn, London WC1V 6BH*
> > > > *Phone: 0207 166 3934*
> > > > *sarah.brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk*
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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