Hi,
I mean, is it because I'm not coloured, (not black).
Because in the first meeting, then they said there that they could sometimes send to Naric, but not before companies asked for it.
And I've had problems with the Jobcentre giving me grief, so then I thought I could ask to get about my qualifications clearified.
(And they didn't look at my Upper Secondary school qualifications in the first meeting).
So I think it's strange I have to pay the £40.
I feel a bit tricked by Mr. Carlos Pineda.
He didn't tell me that this involved a £40 bill.
I think he should have told me that, in the meeting at Jet job-bank, on Wednesday.
It's like he clouded it, about this, I think.
Therefore I think I was tricked, I think the normal procedure, in this, is that this goes through JET.
Right?
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:55 PM
Subject: Complaint/Fwd: Is it possible to convert Norwegian degrees/certificates to English degrees/certificates?/Fwd: Update/Fwd: Complaint about Jet Employability Team/Fwd: Update/Fwd: IT Manager
To: Jet@liverpool.gov.uk
Hi,
is it because I am not black, that I have to pay £40, for this?
Wouldn't Jet normally have paid this?
Regards,
Erik Ribsskog
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: info <info@naric.org.uk>Date: Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Is it possible to convert Norwegian degrees/certificates to English degrees/certificates?/Fwd: Update/Fwd: Complaint about Jet Employability Team/Fwd: Update/Fwd: IT Manager
To: " eribsskog@gmail.com" < eribsskog@gmail.com>
Dear Erik Ribsskog,
Thank you for your email.
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From:
Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 11 August 2010 18:52
To: Customer Services
Cc: carlos.pineda@liverpool.gov.uk
Subject: Is it possible to convert
Norwegian degrees/certificates to English degrees/certificates?/Fwd:
Update/Fwd: Complaint about Jet Employability Team/Fwd: Update/Fwd: IT Manager
Hi,
I was at a meeting at Jet Liverpool today, with Mr. Carlos Pineda,
Guidance Officer, Adult Learning Service, Ethnic Minority Employability
Project.
We agreed, that I'd contact Naric, regarding my degrees from Norway.
I have degrees at both level 3 and level 5/6.
I send about this in different e-mails, first about the level 3
degrees, then I think it's easier to keep the overviev.
I went three years on Upper Secondary Business
School, in Norway, from 1986 to 1989.
For all of these three years, I got a 'vitnemål', that's a (school leaving)
certificate.
These I think must be at National Diploma-level.
The first year, I graduated in 'Grunnleggende handels og kontorfag', which
means 'Basic commerce and office-knowledge'.
The second year, I graduated, in 'Markedføring', that's Marketing.
The third year, I graduated in 'Informasjonsbehandling', that's Information
Management.
The third year, I had an optional subject, 'Matematikk', that's Maths,
(even if we had an a bit un-structurised teacher, in that subject, I'd say, so
I only got a 2, as a grade, but that's still a pass).
So, since I passed in maths, as an optional subject, then I got a
qualification, called 'generell studiekompetanse', earlier called 'examen
artium', in Norway.
(I think this is what you call A-levels, in the UK).
I didn't get this in writing, from my Upper Secondary School.
But I got matriculated, at the University
of Oslo, in 1991.
(Since I had a rest-year, from the Information
Management University
College, which I studied
on then, NHI.
And then I got a job in a shop, to save up money for further full time studies.
And then I wanted to try to use my mind a bit more as well, since I only sat in
the check out in the shop, and I was a bit curios about what 'Examen
Philosoficum' was, at the University of Oslo, so I studied there.
So the Univeristy of Oslo, can confirm that I have this qualificiation, (I'm
sending a copy of their letter), called 'generell studiekompetanse'/'examen
artium'/A-levels.
Which that I can study at (Norwegian) universities.
So these three years at Upper Secondary School in Norway, they gave me three
certificates/National Diplomas and one academic qualification, (examen
artium/generell studiekompetanse).
So I was wondering it I could then please get these transfered to English
degrees/qualifications.
Because I'm not sure that e.g. the Jobcentre, understand my Norwegian degrees/qualification.
(It would then be three National Diplomas I'd guess:
- One in Basic Commerce and Office-knowledge/work.
- One in Information Management.
- And also an academic qualification, that means I can study at
unversities, (A-levels?).
I hope you have the chance to look at this!
Thank you very much in advance, for any help!
I'm also going to send you another e-mail, about my level 5/6
qualifications/degrees/grades.
But I send two different e-mails, about this, since I think it helps with
keeping the overview, regarding this.
I enclose scanned copies of the three certificates, and the letter from
the University of
Oslo, regarding the
academic qualification, 'generell studiekompetanse'/A-levels(?).
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Subject: Update/Fwd: Complaint about Jet Employability Team/Fwd: Update/Fwd: IT
Manager
To: Jet@liverpool.gov.uk
Cc: carlos.pineda@liverpool.gov.uk
Hi,
I was at Jet job-bank today, and spoke with Mr. Carlos Pineda, Guidance
Officer, Adult Learning Service, Ethnic Minority Employabilitiy Project.
We discussed my complaint.
And I explained that the Jobcentre gave me grief, because they say that my
degree from Norway,
is at level 4, while Jet and Direct Gov say it's at level 5.
So we agreed I'd contact Naric, about this, (and to see if my grades
from two University Colleges in Norway
are enough to get a Bachelor Degree, etc).
I appolised for that I think I perhaps over-reacted a bit in my compaint.
It's just that I'm a bit stressed from being un-employed, and the Jobcentre are
giving me a bit grief regarding this and other issues.
So we agreed that this complaint was now solved, with the new information I got the meeting today.
Thank you very much for your help with finding out which level my degrees from Norway
are!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:22 PM
Subject: Complaint about Jet Employability Team/Fwd: Update/Fwd: IT Manager
To: Jet@liverpool.gov.uk
Hi,
I was sent by Gill, from JET in Walton, to Jet employability team, last
month.
They didn't want to transfer my degree, to a UK degree, so I now strugle, when I
apply for work, and the Jobcentre says I'm at level 4, when I'm really at level
5 or 6.
I think I really have a level 6, (bachelor), degree.
But Jet Employability Team, didn't want to look at my files thorowly, but were
almost hostile, I think, (maybe because I'm white, since all of the people in
that office were coloured).
And they didn't want to transfer my degrees from Upper Secondary School
eighter.
They only wanted to look at one file, and that was it.
But I also have a file from another University
College, where I almost
got a degree.
So I think this really-really is like a Bachelor-degree.
But I don't think the person at Jet employability team, seemed qualified to
judge this.
It seemed like he had enough with finding Norway on the screen.
Is it any way I could get this looked at properly?
Date: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Subject: Update/Fwd: IT Manager
To: Lesley.Sloan@alfa.com
Hi,
sorry that I'm sending this many e-mails.
But you see, I'm from Norway,
so I'm not used with 'fancy' sections on the CV, called things like 'Personal
Profile', and 'Skills'.
So it could be that I get my CV a bit wrong now.
And the Jobcentre, Working Links etc., they tell me things like to have those
sections, and that the CV shouldn't be more than two pages, and to only write
work-experience from the last 10-15 years.
So I've changed the CV a lot of times now.
But I think it's maybe best for me, to just have a very basic style of
CV, like I've learned in Norway.
Since CV really means Curriculum Vitea, which means a description of how one
have lived ones life.
So really, I'm not sure if the 'fancy' sections should be on the CV,
originally.
And to cut out pieses of one's work-experience, on one's CV, isn't
really true to the original nature of a CV, which means a descripiton of what
one have done, in one's life.
So I think the Jobcentre, and Working-links are a bit silly, perhaps.
But you have given me valueable feed-back.
Thank you very much for the feed-back!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
Date: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: IT Manager
To: Lesley Sloan <Lesley.Sloan@alfa.com>
Hi,
well, I've studied IT for four and a half years at university-level, so
I think I have some skills.
I've also worked with system development, in 1993, even if maybe that isn't on
my CV, since it's many years ago.
But thank you anyway for your reply.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Lesley Sloan <Lesley.Sloan@alfa.com>
wrote:
Thank you for your application for the position of IT
Manger at Alfa Aesar, Heysham.
Unfortunately your skills and experience do not meet our
specifications and therefore we will not be pursuing your application further.
In the meantime I would like to thank you for your interest
in the position and indeed Alfa Aesar and I wish you every success in securing
suitable employment in the future
Alfa Aesar
A Johnson Matthey Company
Shore Road
Port of Heysham Industrial Park
Heysham
Lancs.
LA3 2XY
Phone 01524 862241
Email lesley.sloan@alfa.com
At Johnson Matthey, sustainability is key to our success.
Social - Environment - Health & Safety
>>> Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> 28/07/2010 15:59 >>>
Hi,
I read about this vacancy, on the Jobcentre Plus website.
I have a degree from Norway,
in IT, from 2009, which is comparable with a Higher National Diploma, here in
the UK, and I've also
studied Information Management, at university-level in Norway, for two years, in addition
to this.
I also have degrees from Upper Secondary Business-school,
in Norway,
in Basic Commerce and Office-work, Marketing and Information Management, which
are comparable with National Diplomas here.
I've also worked as a manager, in Norway,
for ten years, in one of Norways
biggest food shop-chains, Rimi, (owned by ICA),
so I'm used with working with management and customer support.
I attach my CV, and hope to hear back from you!
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