Hi,
well, I'm going to wait, and see, what ICO says.
And if I don't get a monitary compensation, that I'm happy with, from
eighter Virgin or ICO.
Then I'm going to contact you back, about this case, I thought.
Thanks for the reply!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:00 PM, CISAS <CISAS@idrs.ltd.uk> wrote:
> Dear Mr Ribsskog,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
> Sent: 23 August 2014 01:50
> To: CISAS
> Cc: post; Legal LSC; she; Politikk Høyre; Akademikerforbundet; LHT Customer
> Service; Runcorn Office; Info; Bjørn Ribsskog; admin; ITCGM- Norwegian
> Consulate; hv-02.kontakt; anne-kathrine.skodvin; post@nav.no;
> steve.rotheram.mp; complaint.info;
> rcjchancery.judgeslisting@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
> Subject: Re: Ofcom reference: 1-266978842
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>
> Hi,
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>
>
> thank you for your e-mail!
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>
>
> This case is now with ICO, (casework@ico.org.uk), so I guess, that we
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> should perhaps wait for them, to finish with their case-work, before I
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> e.g. escalate to you.
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> I hope this is alright!
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> Best regards,
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>
>
> Erik Ribsskog
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> PS.
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> Here is more about this:
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>
> 'Erik Ribsskog
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> ________________________________
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> Response from ICO regarding Virgin Media[Ref. RFA0550287]
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> ________________________________
>
> Erik Ribsskog Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:05 AM
>
> To: casework@ico.org.uk
>
> Cc: rcjchancery.judgeslisting@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
>
> Bcc: post , Legal LSC , she , Politikk Høyre , Akademikerforbundet ,
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> LHT Customer Service , Runcorn Office , Info , Bjørn Ribsskog , admin
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> , ITCGM- Norwegian Consulate , "hv-02.kontakt" ,
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> "anne-kathrine.skodvin" , "post@nav.no" , "steve.rotheram.mp" ,
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> "complaint.info"
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> Hi,
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>
> I don't understand why I have to send about this, with 'snail-mail'.
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> E-mails should be fine enough.
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> Virgin don't have a general enquiery e-mail-address, on their website.
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> So I then think I don't have to exhaust their internal complaint procedure.
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> Since Virgin then sends a message, that they don't want correspondence, I
> think.
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>
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> (By not having their general enquiery e-mail address on their website).
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>
>
> So I would have wanted a second opinion, to do with this complaint, please.
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>
>
> So if you could please escalate, this complaint, to your line-manager.
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> Thanks in advance for any help with this!
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>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Erik Ribsskog
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>
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:33 AM, <casework@ico.org.uk> wrote:
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>> 14 August 2014
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>> Case Reference Number RFA0550287
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>> Dear Mr Ribsskog
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>> Thank you for your correspondence dated 4 August 2014 regarding Virgin
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>> Media.
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>> Your concerns
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>>
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>> I understand from your correspondence that you have received an email from
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>> Virgin Media that suggests an account has been set up in your name; you
>> then
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>> received an email to say that the contact email address has been changed.
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>> Our response
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>> For us to consider this matter further you would need to make your
>> complaint
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>> in writing to Virgin Media and inform them of the specific reasons for
>> your
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>> complaint, we require evidence that this has been done and that you have
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>> allowed them a certain amount of time in which to respond.
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>> The contact details for Virgin Media are as follows:
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>> Virgin Media Limited
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>> Media House
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>> Bartley Wood Business Park
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>> Hook
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>> RG27 9UP
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>> It may be beneficial for you to send your correspondence by recorded
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>> If you do not receive a response from Virgin Media in this timeframe, you
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>> Yours sincerely
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>> Sarah Timperley – Case Officer
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>> Information Commissioner’s Office
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> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:59 AM, CISAS <CISAS@idrs.ltd.uk> wrote:
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>> Dear Mr Ribsskog,
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>> Thank you for your email. Please note that in order to maintain our
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>> impartiality, we can only advise you about the process of our scheme.
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>> CISAS is an Ofcom-approved redress scheme which individuals and small
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>> To use our service you must make a formal application after you have
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>> exhausted Virgin’s complaints procedure. Applications can be made through
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>> post.
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>> We are unable to take on a complaint unless you can show that you have
>> been
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>> You can also contact Virgin on;
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>> We hope you are able to settle your complaint directly with the company as
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>> Yours sincerely
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>> CISAS
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
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>> Sent: 05 August 2014 17:42
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>> To: OCCtelecoms
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>> Cc: CISAS
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>> Subject: Re: Ofcom reference: 1-266978842
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> Hi,
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> thank you for your e-mail!
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>>
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>>
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>> I send a copy-email to the internet adjudicator then.
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>> I tried to look more at Virgins website now, and had a chat with Phil.
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>>
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>> But when I tried to call the mobile-number he mentioned, then it wasn't
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>> free, (anyway), and I'm out of credit on my mobile, since I haven't gotten
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>> my jobseekers allowance lately.
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>>
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>> And I attach a copy of the conversation with Phil.
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>> I think it's strange they don't have an e-mail-address.
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>> I used to be with BT Broadband, (from 2006 to 2011), and they were
>> possible
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>> to e-mail.
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>> But when I moved to Sunderland, in 2011, then BT sent me a cheque, for
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>> around £150, I think.
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>> So they must have double-charged me, for some months, I think.
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>> And then discovered this, later.
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>> I really wanted to use a credit they had.
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>> But I think what happened was that BT double-charged me instead.
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>> So like some sharia, or something?
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>> So BT freaked me out, I have to say.
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>> And that's why I chosed Virgin now.
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>> But if I'd known they don't use e-mail, then I would have chosen Talk
>> Talk,
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>> (or another internet-supplier), I think.
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>> Just to try to update.
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>> Thanks again for the e-mail.
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>> Best regards,
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>> Erik Ribsskog
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>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:39 PM, OCCtelecoms <OCCtelecoms@ofcom.org.uk>
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>> wrote:
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>>> Ofcom reference: 1-266978842
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>>> 04 August 2014
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>>> Dear Mr Ribsskog
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