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Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

FW: Update/Fwd: Compansation-claim/Fwd: Kompansasjon for tull fra amerikanske myndigheter?

Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> 2. juli 2022 kl. 06:18

Til: "RedressFinal, TRIP" <TRIP@tsa.dhs.gov>

Kopi: post <post@mfa.no>, amnestyis <amnestyis@amnesty.org>, HRW UK <hrwuk@hrw.org>, "post@sivilombudsmannen.no" <post@sivilombudsmannen.no>, firmapost@rgf.no, innsyn@arbeidstilsynet.no, post@canica.no

Hi,

I was wondering.

Wasn't it so, that a police-officer at the airport in Detroit took some copies of my university-transcripts and references/letters from employers?

Later the same year (2005) I ended up at an uncles farm in Norway.

And I had to run from there/Norway, because my uncle and them tried to get me killed, it seemed.

And those mentioned documents are at my uncles farm still (I didn't get them with me).

And they refuse to send them.

And my old employer don't want to send me copies eighter (i even went to Stockholm a couple of years ago, to the ICA head-quarter, but they just started pretending that they didn't have a calling in the reception-area).

So if you could please email me the mentioned documents.

(It was (among other letters) a letter from Forbes-billionaire and Rimi-founder Stein Erik Hagen where he wrote that I was a very good manager, etc.

To do with that I won a prestegious store-running-competetion (Rimi Gullårer), when I was store-manager at Rimi Langhus, in 2001).

Thanks in advance for any reply!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

tor. 18. apr. 2013 kl. 15:35 skrev RedressFinal, TRIP <TRIP@tsa.dhs.gov>:

Please know that CBP does not provide compensation to travelers who are refused entry into the United States.

 

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security Traveler Redress Inquiry Program (DHS TRIP) is a single point of contact for individuals who have inquiries or seek resolution regarding difficulties they experience during their travel while screening at transportation hubs, such as airports and train stations, or while crossing U.S. borders.  Examples of travel difficulties may include:

 

watch list issues

screening problems at ports of entry

situations where travelers believe they have been unfairly or incorrectly delayed, denied boarding or identified for additional screening at our nation’s transportation hubs.

                                                 

DHS TRIP is part of an effort by the United States Departments of State and Homeland Security to welcome travelers while still securing our country from those who want to do us harm.

 

Participation in the DHS Traveler Redress Inquiry Program is voluntary.  If you wish to apply, you may do so by visiting: www.dhs.gov/TRIP. 

 

In the alternative, you may complete the appended Traveler Inquiry Form, provide your original signature, and then return it with a copy of at least one unexpired photograph-bearing government-issued travel document (e.g., driver’s license or unexpired passport) to Trip@dhs.gov or mailed to the following address:

 

U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Traveler Redress Inquiry Program (DHS TRIP)

601 South 12th Street, TSA-901

Arlington, VA  20598-6901

 

 

Sincerely,

DHS TRIP

 

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 4:48 AM

To: LAB-HQ; Trip@dhs.gov

Cc: post@mfa.no

Subject: Update/Fwd: Compansation-claim/Fwd: Kompansasjon for tull fra amerikanske myndigheter?

 

Hi,

 

it isn't only the USA who have refused me to go on holiday, for funny reasons.

 

This easter Isle of Man also did the same.

The difference is that I get a refund, for my ticket-expenses this time.

USA owe me around £2000 in ticket-expenses, I think.

 

And you should also pay like a million dollars in compensation for messing with me, I think.

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Here is more about this:

 

Image removed by sender. Gmail

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

 

 

Update/Fwd: Your booking at Adelphi Hotel

 

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:13 AM

To:

adelphihotel@hotmail.com

Cc:

iom.reservations@steam-packet.com, l.kennedy@easylaw.co.uk, emb.london@mfa.no, hv-02.kontakt@mil.no, enquiries@tynwald.org.im, gudmundur.einarsson@efta.int, eftacourt@eftacourt.int, Elin.BJERKEBO@efta.int, inquiries2@un.org, HRW UK <hrwuk@hrw.org>, amnestyis <amnestyis@amnesty.org>, info@sia.homeoffice.gov.uk, info@steampacketholidays.com

Hi again,

 

my grandmother Ingeborg, told me, (and possibly my sister Pia), in the 80's or 90's, that my aunt Ellen, always used to be the first of the airplane, from where she lived in Switzerland, when she went to her old home-land Norway.

 

 

And aunt Ellen didn't have any luggage, for some reason.

So my aunt Ellen always had to go throw a horrible control, where they looked for narcotica, my grandmother said.

 

I guessed they must have put their fingers up both my aunt Ellens anus and vagina, to look for drugs there.

(That's how it must have been, I guess, even if my grandmother didn't detail it like that.

But she was shook, so I guess it must have been like that, by interperating what my grandmother said and how she looked, while she told this).

But I don't know if these people found any drugs in my aunt Ellens vagina and anus.

 

My sister Pia and I visited aunt Ellen in Switzerland, in the summer of 1987, and then aunt Ellen told us that she grew a kind of mariuahna, in her garden, after planting seeds, from bird-seeds-(food)-bags.

 

And she sent this mild mariuana to friends in Denmark labeling it 'herb-tea', I remember she said, and the Danish customs always let her send the marijuana, my aunt said, probably because she's after Løvenbalk and Danish King Christoffer II and Plantagenet, etc.

 

 

But I don't know if the airport-control found any narcotics, in my aunts vagina and anus.

But it's a bit relief, for me, after being the victim of this homosexual clapping, from the SIA ID-guy Moreton.

 

That my aunt also get sexualy harrased when she goes abroad.

 

So it's isn't only me, in my familiy, at least.

But my aunt don't send my inheretence, after grandmother Ingeborg, who died in 2009.

 

Becuase my aunt has moved back to Norway now.

But I guess Ellen uses these money for narcotics.

Who knows.

 

Just as an update.

Erik Ribsskog

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Subject: Re: Your booking at Adelphi Hotel

To: adelphi hotel 3 star <adelphihotel@hotmail.com>

Cc: iom.reservations@steam-packet.com, l.kennedy@easylaw.co.uk, emb.london@mfa.no, hv-02.kontakt@mil.no, enquiries@tynwald.org.im, gudmundur.einarsson@efta.int, eftacourt@eftacourt.int,Elin.BJERKEBO@efta.int, inquiries2@un.org, HRW UK <hrwuk@hrw.org>, amnestyis <amnestyis@amnesty.org>, info@sia.homeoffice.gov.uk, info@steampacketholidays.com

Hi,

 

thank you for the e-mail!

I didn't have the chance to cancel 24 hours in advance, due to that the ferry-company refused me to go with the ferry, to the Isle of Man, on the same day, that the booking was for.

 

 

This was just some silly terror-stuff, I'd say.

 

Two guys without uniform attacked me, after I'd passed the ferry-company security-guards.

So these weren't really working for the ferry-company, I think.

 

 

And the captain used some gossip, as excuse, for not letting me go with the ferry.

And the guys without uniform, (but with SIA-ID's), they, (Mr. Moreton), touched me, all over my upper-body.

 

It was like gay sex, I think.

I'm never going to go to the Isle of Man again.

One have to have gay sex with terrorists to go there, it seems.

I suspect the Order of St. John.

 

At least, my grandmother Ingeborg, (who was from Danish royalty), once told me, (in the 90's, I think it must have been), that my aunt Ellen always was harrased when she traveled abroad.

 

 

It's that order who mess with people who are after Plantagenet etc., I think.

Something like that.

 

But thanks for the e-mail.

Really I should have gotten millions of pounds in compensation, for this terror-act.

 

But this order also controls the lawyers, I think, so I don't think I'm going to get a penny.

At least not a penny more than the ticket(s).

 

Thanks again for the e-mail!

Regards,

Erik Ribsskog

 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:36 PM, adelphi hotel 3 star <adelphihotel@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Thank you for your e mail, sadly if you are a no show full price is taken had you let us know 24 hour earlier no charge would have been taken.  please see booking .com contract. Yours L Carr.........Adelphi

 

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:02:17 +0100

Subject: Fwd: Your booking at Adelphi Hotel

From: eribsskog@gmail.com

To: iom.reservations@steam-packet.com

CC: adelphihotel@hotmail.com; l.kennedy@easylaw.co.uk; emb.london@mfa.no; hv-02.kontakt@mil.no;enquiries@tynwald.org.im; gudmundur.einarsson@efta.int; eftacourt@eftacourt.int;Elin.BJERKEBO@efta.int,

 

 

Hi,

 

I'm refering to your letter which I recieved yesterday, (and attach a photo of).

 

 

Like you can see in the forwarded e-mail, I had also paid for a hotel-room, at Adelphi hotel, in Douglas, for around £35, for my short holiday, to Isle of Man.

 

 

It says that they don't refund the tickets if one doesn't use the hotel-room, so you owe me more than for the ferry-trip, I think.

 

Also your SIA-ID guys, who didn't wear any uniform with your logo, they patted me all over my upper-body, in a way that was almost like homosexual sex, I think.

 

This was very embarrasing, and I felt Mr. Morton, (I think his name was), hands on me, for days, after this 'near-gay-experience', like we say, in Norway.

 

Do one have to be homosexual to go to a holiday in the Isle of Man?

 

 

It seems like that to me.

 

Who employed these 'goons' who seemed to me, hadn't shaved, for a weeks, (Mr. Moreton), and the other guy hadn't washed his hair for weeks, it seemed.

 

What the hell was this?

 

 

Some kind of sharia or vendetta or something?

 

 

The captain of your ferry, was just gossiping, like a woman.

 

He didn't know who had sent you an e-mail, even so he refered to it.

 

 

How can people take your ferry-company serious when you listen to gossip?

 

 

This was a scandal, I think.

 

 

If this had been in America I would have gotten millions of dollars in compensation, I think.

 

 

And you only give me the money for the ticket.

 

 

I'm an earlier Store Manager and Home Defence-guy, from Norway.

 

This is like you disgrace the Norwegian Home Defence.

 

 

This was sickening, I think.

 

 

You should pay a lot more compensation when you mess with people like this, I think.

 

This was like a terrorist-act, I think.

 

 

To SIA-guys, an African woman, one captain John and a Police-officer terrorising me.

 

 

Who is behind this?

 

The mafia, the CIA, Al Quaida?

It's a disgrace to the free world.

Companies should be made to pay for terrorising people like this, so to scare other companies from doing the same.

 

Like they do in America.

 

 

Erik Ribsskog

 

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:21 AM

Subject: Fwd: Your booking at Adelphi Hotel

To: adelphihotel@hotmail.com

Cc: l.kennedy@easylaw.co.uk, "emb.london" <emb.london@mfa.no>, "hv-02.kontakt" <hv-02.kontakt@mil.no>

Hi,

I didn't get on the ferry to Isle of Man, today, (Saturday), because of problems, at the Ferry-terminal.

When I went in there, two guys from SGI, (a security-company), wanted to look in my bag.

On guy was unshawen and the other guy had greasy hair.

So I thought these could have been criminals that wanted to steal my bag.

But on guy showed me his ID, and he worked for 'SIA' it said, and his name was Mr. Morton, (the unshaven guy), or something.

The Police was also there.

(I don't know if the ferry company called them).

SIA was happy with me to go with the ferry.

But then the captain, (John?), told me I couldn't go, because of something on my blog, taken out of context.

And someone had sent him a e-mail-threats, in my name, (he said).

(He had a printed e-mail there that was folded, so I don't know who sent it).

A Police officer with number '8156'.

Wondered if I could close down my blog, since someone sends threatening e-mails all the time, in my name.

But there's something called freedom of speach, isn't it?

So I just said I could close it if I wanted to.

(But that would be to give in to terror, I think).

The Police officer told me to tell them if I knew who sent the e-mail, (in my name).

I said I'll do that.

But that's really their job to find out, isn't it?

Seems the Police want's to have a 'cowboy-image' and are afraid to be called nerds, and therefore don't want to investigate e-mail-crime.

Something like this.

I used to work out at the Adelphi hotel in Liverpool, after a collegue, (Karianne), recomended this hotel for working out, (when we worked at Arvato, in the Cunard Building).

So I thought Adelphi seemed fine, at the Isle of Man.

I thought you perhaps had the same owners, (or something), you see.

I send a copy e-mail to my lawyer since someone make my life hell, by sending fake e-mails in my name.

I just thought I'd go at an Easter Holiday to Isle of Man, and have a look at the Thynwald etc, (with the viking-ship-flag), to get away a bit, since I haven't been out of England, since 2005.

But unfortunately, due to the ferry company, this wasn't possible.

But I didn't want to argue, with the captain.

(After September 11th etc., I don't think one should do that).

So I just said I would celebrated Easter at home, and left the ferry-terminal, (but I had to chat with the Police-offer, while I went out of the 'ferry-company-area'.

Sorry that I didn't explain earlier why I didn't go to get the room, that I'd book.

But I thought this scene was very embarrasing, so I thought I had to go and drink some lager, before I went home.

The Police-officer also wanted to know where I lived, so I wondered a bit if Police would be on my door, when I got home, so I went and had some pints, because I had had enough embarasment for one day.

Sorry about this!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

 

 

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Booking.com <customer.service@booking.com>

Date: Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Subject: Your booking at Adelphi Hotel

To: eribsskog@gmail.com

 

Thank you, Erik! Your booking is now confirmed.

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Booking number

777190006

PIN code 

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E-mail

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Booked by

Erik Ribsskog

Your reservation:

1 night, 1 room 

Check-in:

Saturday, 30 March 2013

(from 12:00 - 22:00) 

Check-out:

Sunday, 31 March 2013

(from 10:00 - 11:00) 

Single Room

£ 29.17

VAT (20%) included

£ 5.83

Total price

£ 35

 

Please note: additional supplements (e.g. extra bed) are not added to this total

 

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Address:

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Phone:

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for max. 1 person.

 

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·  Breakfast is included in the room rate.

 

 

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---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Subject: Fwd: Compansation-claim/Fwd: Kompansasjon for tull fra amerikanske myndigheter?

To: cbp.labhq@dhs.gov

Cc: post@mfa.no

Hi,

 

I'm trying to find the right US Government organisation, to claim refunds for ticket-expenses, when being thrown out of the USA, for no proper/good reason.

 

Hope I send the e-mail to the right address this time!

 

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: RedressFinal, Trip <Trip@dhs.gov>

Date: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:13 PM

Subject: RE: Compansation-claim/Fwd: Kompansasjon for tull fra amerikanske myndigheter?

To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

If you have additional questions, we recommend that you contact Customs and Border Protection (CBP) directly.  For general CBP inquiries, please call the Customer Service Center Monday-Friday, between 8:30 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time.

General Inquiries - 877-CBP-5511

International Callers – (703) 526-4200

TDD - 866-880-6582

Sincerely,

DHS TRIP

 

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:53 AM

To: RedressFinal, Trip

Cc: post@mfa.no

Subject: Compansation-claim/Fwd: Kompansasjon for tull fra amerikanske myndigheter?

 

Hi,

 

last year, I got a letter from US Customs and Border Protection, Maureen Dugan, Acting Executive Director, Admissibility and Passengers Program, Office of Field Operations, from May 14 2009.

 

I've thought more about this, later last year, and I've been in contact, with the American Embassy in Oslo.

They told me to contact you again.

Since, I can't see that I did anything wrong, going on a flight to Detroit, even if I hadn't booked a hotel in advance, since I had about £10.000 or 20.000 $ on my Visa-card, from my study-loan, for some studies that I had to interupt.

But then I was free to use this loan in which way I wanted to, this is normal in Norway, that one can use ones study-loan, to other purposes than studying, if conditions change, regarding ones study-situation etc., after one have received or applied for a study loan, from the Norwegian Government, like it did in my case.

 

So I think it is unfair, that I had to go back to Europe, since I can't see that I have done anything wrong.

I also had to buy a new ticket, that cost more than or around 2.000 $.

 

I told the American Embassy in Oslo, that I've been using around 20.000 NOK or around 4.000 $ on airplane-tickets, to and from America.

And I wasn't allowed in to the USA even if I'm a law abiding Norwegian citizien, who has never been denied entry more or less anywhere before.

And also, my suitcase, was delayed for one day, when I went back to Europe, and Oslo.

(Since US Homeland Security had found a lighter, in my suit-case).

So I had to stay on a hotel in Oslo, (Gardermoen), for one night, waiting for my suitcase.

And that hotel cost 1.000 NOK a night, or around 200 $.

 

So my expenes where around 4.200 $ for plane tickets and hotel.

 

And what did I get in return?

Nothing, I didn't get to spend a single second in the USA.

 

So I think I should be given compensation from the US Government, for this poor treatment and travel expenses.

In addition, I've a lot of time, on sending you e-mails to complain about rude treatment, from US Immigration Control, on Detoit International Airport.

So I think I should be given more compansation, than just flight and hotel ticket costs.

I mentioned the figure 100.000 NOK, as a minimum, of what I think I should be compensated, for bad treatment, from the American Government.

 

I also know that compensations are high, in the USA, and if an American citizen had been treated like this, in eg. Norway, then 'hell would have been loose'.

 

And compensations in the USA are generally high, so I don't think 100.000 NOK or 20.000 $ is much to ask for, in compensation, considering the poor and unfair treatment I've received from the American Government, in connection with my flight to Detroit, in 2005, with Lufthansa, from Frankfurt.

 

The check for at least the mentioned amount, can be sent to:

Erik Ribsskog

Flat 3

5 Leather Lane

Liverpool

GB-L2 2AE

UK

 

I'm also sending a copy of this e-mail to the Norwegian Foreign Ministry, to whom I've also complained about the way I was treated by the American Imigration Control in Detriot, earlier.

 

I hope this is alright and thank you very much in advance for you help!

 

Sincerely,

 

Erik Ribsskog

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Oslo, IRC <osloirc@state.gov>

Date: 2010/1/4

Subject: RE: Kompansasjon for tull fra amerikanske myndigheter?

To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Hei Erik,

 

Amerikanske ambassader er underlagt State Department, men dette virker mer som Department of Homeland Security’s område. http://www.dhs.gov/index.shtm

 

Med vennlig hilsen,

 

Information Resource Center

U.S. Embassy, Oslo

osloIRC@state.gov

21 30 85 40 (phone hours: 2-4pm)

 

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:14 PM

To: Oslo, IRC

Subject: Kompansasjon for tull fra amerikanske myndigheter?

 

Hei,

 

tidligere iår, så fikk jeg et beklagelse-brev sendt til meg i England, hvor jeg bor nå, etter å ha blitt tullet med av amerikanske myndigheter, på flyplassen i Detroit, i 2005, og sendt tilbake til Europa, med engang jeg kom til USA, uten noen bra begrunnelse ble jeg tullet med.

Kofferten min ble også holdt tilbake, en ekstra dag, så jeg måtte bo en dag på hotell på Gardermoen.

Når jeg tenker på det nå, så var det fint å få beklagelse-brev.

Men billettene til og fra USA, kosta meg jo rundt 20.000 norske kroner.

Og 1000 kroner for hotellet på Gardermoen.

Pluss at jeg synes at jeg burde fått noe for tort og svie også.

Så 100.000 norske kroner, ville jeg ha sett på som et slags minstebeløp, å få i kompansasjon, siden kompansasjoner er så høye i USA, så hvis dette hadde skjedd med en amerikaner, så hadde jeg vel fått mange millioner.

Sjekk kan sendes til:

Erik Ribsskog

Flat 3

5 Leather Lane

Liverpool

GB-L2 2AE

Storbritannia

 

Med flyplass-krøll hilsen

Erik Ribsskog

Problemene jeg hadde på flyplassen i Detroit, har jo vært et tema på bloggen. Jeg prøvde å søke på nettet, og havna på et forum hvor jeg ble tulla med

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=513951

PS.

Jeg 'paster' alt på bloggen, så har jeg det, i tilfelle jeg finner ut at noe av dette senere burde tas opp i en rettsak, eller noe.

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Feb 13th 2008, 3:11 am #1
johncons
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Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
Hi,

I'm really a Nurse living in Britain, but I searched on the internet, regarding some problems I've been having, when I tried to go to the USA, in 2005.

Then I had some problems with the Detroit Imigration Control, and they wrote some text in my passport, and sent me back to Oslo, via Paris.

Here's what was written:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1059338080

Just now, I searched on the internet, on the text '8 CFR 217.4 (a)'.

And I found this post, on this message-board:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73347

The post-writer, seems to have been having a similar problem as I had, when I tried to go to the US, for a holiday, two or three months, in February 2005.

I wanted to rent a car in Detroit, and drive and see a bit of the country.

But I wasn't let through the passport-control, and I had to sit an answer questions in a room, for several hours.

And I suspect they were calling like, the Norwegian government, and things like that.

I'm not sure exactly what they mean with 'no ties outside of the US'.

But if they were afraid that I would exploit the American welfare system, then I think that was a bit strange, since Norway has like a generous, or what the right word is, welfare system.

But anyway.

I had a rented storage in Oslo, with City Self Storage there.

Is that considered a tie outside of the US, I was wondering.

And I have a grandmother in Norway etc., but I'm not sure if that's considered a tie.

The reason I'm wondering how they define 'a tie', is that I'm a bit worried, that people, who they define, as not having 'a tie', is being played games with, used as 'target guys', etc, by the CIA etc.

So I'm trying to get whatever it is that is going on to stop.

This is a link, where I've been trying to explain what's going on a bit better:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/...22-pa-engelsk/

So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!



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Feb 13th 2008, 9:16 am #2
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!
Hi:

First of all, your facebook link needs a password of some sort.

"Ties" is equivalent to a home outside of the US which you intend to return to.

The 8 CFR 217.4(a) notation simply shows that you were refused entry on the Visa Waiver program -- please note that this does NOT count as a formal removal. And fortunately, the "no ties" notation shows that there was NO fraud finding.

The VW is simply an admission under the equivalent of the "B-1/2" non-immigrant categories. [There are some procedural differences]. If you look up section 101(a)(15)(B) of the Immigration & Nationality Act, the very definition of visitor requires that one have home abroad with no intention of abandoning it.

So the reference to "ties" is to show the existence of a residence abroad AND an intent to return to that residence. And those ties can change. For example, the three month visit at a land border is indication of coming to the US to stay -- and it was up to you to show that was not true. BTW, did you have a confirmed ticket out of the US or did you simply plan to return to Canada?

That said, since you were not formally "removed", you are entitled to a new determination if you seek to obtain visitor status again.

You now have proof of an excellent tie to the EC -- you have a good job. Do you have other proof of residence in the UK? I'm not familiar with the UK documents that a citizen of another EC country might have that show residence in the UK -- driver's license, Council taxes, etc? That is also good evidence of a residence in the US.

I hope this helps. It is not all that difficult.
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Feb 13th 2008, 10:00 am #3
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
Hi,

thank you very much for your answer!

Here is a link, by the way, wich has a picture of the passport etc:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/...32-pa-engelsk/

I'm not really sure if I understand this, but I wasn't allowed an entry to the USA, because I went there right after my studies in Sunderland, and since I then went to London, and then Holland and Germany.

And then I bought a ticket from Frankfurt to Detroit.

And then I wasn't allowed an entry to the US, since I didn't have a non-US address, as I understand it now.

Thats the meaning of 'a tie', like I understand it now.

So if one haven't got a non-US address, then one shouldn't go to the US, because then you aren't going to be let in to the country.

Thats how I understand it.

I wasn't really aware of this at all.

I had a storage where I had the things I couldn't bring with me to Sunderland.

And I really had a British address as well, since I had really agreed with the Univeristy of Sunderland, that I would stay there untill the summer of 2005.

But there were some problems, with my studiy-finance, and getting the 3rd yeard bachelor computer modules from Sunderland, approved by my home university, HiO, in Oslo.

So I suspect that there could have been something phoney going on with the study-finance and the approveal of the modules.

Anyway, these problems, took a bit of the focus away from the lectures etc.

So I finally recieved my study-finance, in January, about four months late, then I was so behind schedule, that I thought it was smarter to just try to get a job.

So thats why I went to London.

And then there were some problems with some criminal networks, or something like that, there as well, it seemed, so I had to move on.

And after a while, I got a bit tired of these problems, that I didn't really understand, so I thought I could maybe go to the US, because I didn't think I would be having problems with being recognised everywhere, like it seemed a bit like I was having a problem with in Europe.

In Detroit, they said that I couldn't use the visa, that in a way is in the electronic passport that I've got, any longer, since I had no lost that possiblity, due to the mentioned problems.

And there has almost been nothing but problems with government/intelligence, something like that, after this episode, so I suspect that they could be linked.

Also, when I got to Oslo, from Detroit, via Paris, then my suitcase wasn't there.

I had to wait untill the next day for my suitcase.

It appeared then, that some homeland security, or something like that, had withheld my suitcase, since I had a lighter there, together with all my other stuff, from Sunderland.

And also, they said there, in Detroit, that if I didn't go to Oslo, via Paris, or to London (to which I didn't want to go, due to the mentioned problems), then I had to stay in prison there, untill the next day.

I didn't want to start having habbits like going to prison, so I thought it sounded smartest to go to Oslo, even if I think it would have a bit fun to maybe see a bit of the US, on the way to and from prison.

But maybe they would have just put me in a car, from which one couldn't look out.

So I didn't actually have a return-ticket, but I had the study-finance money, from Sunderland.

Because I thought it would be smarter to use the money, to get a new job and a flat etc., than continue, with the models there, since I was so behind schedule then, so I don't really think I would had a chance of passing all the exams anyway.

So I just tried to use my head really, and then contact the University, when I had settled, in London, like I had planned.

But this didn't go like I had planned it, and I had some problems with my face (long story), on top of this as well, so I just wanted to get a way a bit from the problems, so I thought it could be a good idea, to get away from Europe a few months, and then maybe my face would be better, and could try to get a job etc, when I returned, after a few months.

But I didn't really understand, why it seemed, that I was recognised everywhere, it was a bit tirering, thats why I tried to go to the US.

But I didn't really know how to explain all this, with the criminal networks and all to the Imigration Control, I was a bit afraid, that with my luck, I would probably just be sent to Guanatanamo, or something like that, and I didn't really understand what was going on, so I just told about the University, and the study finance, and things like that.

But I guess I should contact, like eg. the American Embassy, or something like that.

But I think that, one maybe should be a bit carefull, about letting some government, finding out, that one haven't got an address, if one go travelling, after ones studies etc., then one could be a bit in problems, if the Government find out that you haven't got 'a tie'.

At least it seems that way to me.

I'm not sure who to discuss this with, because I don't this is something that is official.

So I'm not sure if this is something that the different governments want to discuss.

But it seems to me that Governments take advantage of things like this, and I also think that it can sometimes be annoying.

If it is like it seems to me.

Because, I don't want to complain, but I think that, even if people haven't got an address at the moment.

Even so, I think that they still have human rights.

So I suspect a bit, that if one are a bit unlucky with the Imigration Control, then one can get to situations were ones human rights, aren't looked that carefully after.

At least it seems that way to me.

So maybe other people also could get into similar problems, if they are unlucky with the Imigration Control.

But I guess I should try to bring this up with organisations like Amnesty and Human Rights Watch, etc.

Sorry that I'm writing very much here, I know I can't expect people to read all this, or to answer all my questions, so I understand it if I don't get any replies to this post.

If one are a Norwegian citizen working in Britain, then one have things like a national insurance number, council tax/utillity bills, British bank-account, etc., so I think it sounds smart to bring things like that probably yes, if one wanted to try to go to the US again.

But I really think I would need to contact the American Embassy and here with them.

But thanks anyway for the reply, it had a lot of usefull information in it, so I'll look more at this, and then I'll decide what to do next.

So thanks very much again for the help!

But thanks very much again for the answer, I

Feb 13th 2008, 10:09 am #4
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Hi,

I'm really a Nurse living in Britain, but I searched on the internet, regarding some problems I've been having, when I tried to go to the USA, in 2005.

Then I had some problems with the Detroit Imigration Control, and they wrote some text in my passport, and sent me back to Oslo, via Paris.

Here's what was written:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1059338080

Just now, I searched on the internet, on the text '8 CFR 217.4 (a)'.

And I found this post, on this message-board:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73347

The post-writer, seems to have been having a similar problem as I had, when I tried to go to the US, for a holiday, two or three months, in February 2005.

I wanted to rent a car in Detroit, and drive and see a bit of the country.

But I wasn't let through the passport-control, and I had to sit an answer questions in a room, for several hours.

And I suspect they were calling like, the Norwegian government, and things like that.

I'm not sure exactly what they mean with 'no ties outside of the US'.

But if they were afraid that I would exploit the American welfare system, then I think that was a bit strange, since Norway has like a generous, or what the right word is, welfare system.

But anyway.

I had a rented storage in Oslo, with City Self Storage there.

Is that considered a tie outside of the US, I was wondering.

And I have a grandmother in Norway etc., but I'm not sure if that's considered a tie.

The reason I'm wondering how they define 'a tie', is that I'm a bit worried, that people, who they define, as not having 'a tie', is being played games with, used as 'target guys', etc, by the CIA etc.

So I'm trying to get whatever it is that is going on to stop.

This is a link, where I've been trying to explain what's going on a bit better:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/...22-pa-engelsk/

So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!
And I wrote 'Norse', and not 'Nurse'.

I took a back-up, of the post, after I'd submitted it:

http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/...ard-still.html

So this harassment-problem, I'm goint to bring up.

It helps showing that there is something going on.

Feb 13th 2008, 10:32 am #5
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
Erik, if I were you I'd remove the facebook album that has your passport details etc displayed - it's amazing what people can do with your personal details.

Feb 13th 2008, 10:37 am #6
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Erik, if I were you I'd remove the facebook album that has your passport details etc displayed - it's amazing what people can do with your personal details.
Hi,

yes you're very right, I removed my bank account number already, so I am aware of the problem you're bringing up regarding identity theaft etc.

I'm not sure how it fits with the Imigration-stuff, but nevermind.

Thanks anyway!

Erik

Feb 13th 2008, 11:02 am #7
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
Erik, meant most kindly - there are some bits in your previous post that are a bit... unusual. I am wondering if you are feeling quite well, perhaps you might like to seek out a doctor as well, just to make sure that you are ok.
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Feb 13th 2008, 11:13 am #8
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Erik, meant most kindly - there are some bits in your previous post that are a bit... unusual. I am wondering if you are feeling quite well, perhaps you might like to seek out a doctor as well, just to make sure that you are ok.
I think people shouldnt reply to posts if they haven't got anything to contribute with regarding the subject of the thread.

So I would just like to inform the message-board that I don't really appriciate being f-ed around, like the poster here seems to be trying to, so from now on, I'm not going to reply to harassing posts.

It's seems like people speculate, to bring the focus away from the real subject of the discussion, at that is a menace, or what the right word is again.

It's not really something that should be sought after.

Feb 13th 2008, 11:15 am #9
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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I think people shouldnt reply to posts if they haven't got anything to contribute with regarding the subject of the thread.

So I would just like to inform the message-board that I don't really appriciate being f-ed around, like the poster here seems to be trying to, so from now on, I'm not going to reply to harassing posts.

It's seems like people speculate, to bring the focus away from the real subject of the discussion, at that is a menace, or what the right word is again.

It's not really something that should be sought after.
No, I was really trying to be nice. I'm sorry you don't feel that way.
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Feb 13th 2008, 11:17 am #10
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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No, I was really trying to be nice. I'm sorry you don't feel that way.
Keep to the subject.

Don't bring feelings into this.

Feb 13th 2008, 11:32 am #11
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Keep to the subject.

Don't bring feelings into this.
Good luck to you. I hope you find the help you need.
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Feb 13th 2008, 11:35 am #12
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Good luck to you. I hope you find the help you need.
You are really anoying me.

Please stop acting personal towards people you don't know.

And this is a message-board, not a chat-room.

Feb 13th 2008, 11:40 am #13
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Keep to the subject.
Okay... you need to understand that, almost without exception, the US immigration laws are specifically designed to keep non-US citizens *out* of the country. You have no right to enter the US - even as a visitor... it is a privilege. By the way, your "human rights" were not violated just because you were not allowed into the US.


Quote:
And this is a message-board, not a chat-room.
This is a public forum... you are *not* obligated to read any responses you get.

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Feb 13th 2008, 11:48 am #14
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Okay... you need to understand that, almost without exception, the US immigration laws are specifically designed to keep non-US citizens *out* of the country. You have no right to enter the US - even as a visitor... it is a privilege. By the way, your "human rights" were not violated just because you were not allowed into the US.



This is a public forum... you are *not* obligated to read any responses you get.

Ian
'Keep to the subject', wasn't to you.

I'm not obligated to read respones I get.

What kind of nonsense is that?

You are patronising me, and thats harassment, thats illigal.

Stick to the topic, or go f off.

Feb 13th 2008, 11:54 am #15
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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'Keep to the subject', wasn't to you.

I'm not obligated to read respones I get.

What kind of nonsense is that?

You are patronising me, and thats harassment, thats illigal.

Stick to the topic, or go f off.
These seems like organised attacks by the way.

Definetly something going on.




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Feb 13th 2008, 11:58 am #16
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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You are patronising me, and thats harassment, thats illigal.

Stick to the topic, or go f off.
I see no one subjecting you to "harassment" on this forum, and I would ask you not to swear.

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Feb 13th 2008, 12:11 pm #17
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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That said, since you were not formally "removed", you are entitled to a new determination if you seek to obtain visitor status again.
Would the OP be entitled to the VWP now, or would he need to apply for a B1/2 visa?

Feb 13th 2008, 12:42 pm #18
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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These seems like organised attacks by the way.

Definetly something going on.
Johncons, you are clearly suffering from delusional paranoia. Your talk of government conspiracies, Immigration conspiracies, organized crime, your face being recognized everywhere, harassment etc. is delusional, and you need to seek psychiatric help far more than you need immigration advice.

Oh, and yes I'm sure you'll take offense at this post, tell me to f-off and announce that I'm part of the conspiracy, but that won't change the fact that you need to get medical help.
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Feb 13th 2008, 12:51 pm #19
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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Johncons, you are clearly suffering from delusional paranoia. Your talk of government conspiracies, Immigration conspiracies, organized crime, your face being recognized everywhere, harassment etc. is delusional, and you need to seek psychiatric help far more than you need immigration advice.

Oh, and yes I'm sure you'll take offense at this post, tell me to f-off and announce that I'm part of the conspiracy, but that won't change the fact that you need to get medical help.
That's what I was trying to gently say. Johncons is almost certainly ineligible to visit the US at present, due to his medical condition.

If that condition can be treated and stabalised, he might be able to visit.
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Feb 13th 2008, 1:03 pm #20
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
I'm going to guess how your POE experience went:

POE Officer: Hi there! And what brings you to the US?
Johncons: I thought I could maybe go to the US, because I didn't think I would be having problems with being recognised everywhere, like it seemed a bit like I was having a problem with in Europe. But I didn't really understand, why it seemed, that I was recognised everywhere, it was a bit tirering, thats why I tried to go to the US.
POE Officer: Alrighty then... huh, come again

Most people say "for a holiday" or "to see relatives" or "to get a hooker in vegas". I think any of those responses would have been better.

That may account for some of your problems getting in. The ties thing probably didn't help matters, but I think they were the least of your worries.

Feb 13th 2008, 1:10 pm #21
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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I'm going to guess how your POE experience went:

POE Officer: Hi there! And what brings you to the US?
Johncons: I thought I could maybe go to the US, because I didn't think I would be having problems with being recognised everywhere, like it seemed a bit like I was having a problem with in Europe. But I didn't really understand, why it seemed, that I was recognised everywhere, it was a bit tirering, thats why I tried to go to the US.
POE Officer: Alrighty then... huh, come again

Most people say "for a holiday" or "to see relatives" or "to get a hooker in vegas". I think any of those responses would have been better.

That may account for some of your problems getting in. The ties thing probably didn't help matters, but I think they were the least of your worries.
He is ill I believe, he can't help it. I hope things work out for him.
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
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You are patronising me, and thats harassment, thats illigal.
Clearly, you need to learn more about US law and what is or isn't considered harassment.

Ian

Feb 13th 2008, 1:37 pm #23
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These seems like organised attacks by the way.
I'll say this... you do seem to have your share of adventures! I invite the gentle readers of this forum to read the following links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johncons ... something about pizza. The discussion at the bottom is really interesting!

and

http://johncons.blog.com/2008/1/ ... scroll down and read the entry: "Re: Inhumane treatment from the Government".

Sad really... very sad!

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Feb 13th 2008, 2:13 pm #24
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
Best entertainment I've had all day! But it is early in the morning here on the West Coast (0714).

Feb 13th 2008, 2:15 pm #25
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.
This thread is officially closed.

Jeg sendte en ny e-post til UD, angående problemene med amerikanske grensemyndigheter og med den norske ambassaden i London osv. (In Norwegian)

Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

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Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>	Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:32 PM
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Hei, nå fikk jeg brev fra amerikanske grensemyndigheter angående dette idag. De skriver at jeg ble nektet innreise fordi jeg ikke hadde nok bånd til Norge. De nevner bankkontoer, eiendommer, familie, etc. Jeg har jo slektinger som bror og søster og mormor i Norge, så det er kanskje ikke nært nok, i utgangspunktet, jeg vet ikke? Jeg hadde bankkontoer i Nordea og DNB, med mange penger, (studielånet fra Sunderland). Jeg forklarte de det, at jeg reiste jorden rundt, fordi studiene mine i Sunderland, hadde gått i vasken, (pga. tull fra Lånekassa og HiO). Hvis de hadde forklart meg det, at det var viktig å ha slike såkalte 'ties', så kunne jeg forklart mer nøye, at jeg hadde en bod i Oslo, hos City SelfStorage, med tingene mine fra HV og et sølvølkrus, f.eks., fra 1700-tallet, som har stått på et danske slott, som jeg fikk i gave av min mormor, i 2004. (Men jeg tenkte at amerikanerne kanskje ville syntes det var uhøflig hvis jeg nevnte at jeg hadde et ølkrus som var eldre enn USA, mer eller mindre vel. Pluss at jeg er vant til å tenke sånn, at jeg burde ikke si i hytt og pine at jeg er i HV. Men hvis de hadde forklart at dette var viktig, så ville jeg nevnt det. Men jeg forstod ikke i det intervjuet/forhøret, at jeg kunne bli sendt hjem igjen til Norge, hvis jeg ikke hadde 'ties'. Ingen forklarte meg reglene ordentlig. Så her har det vært kommunikasjonsproblemer. Men jeg tror ærlig talt, at amerikanerne ville at det skulle bli misforståelser. At dette ikke er reelle kommunikasjonsproblemer, men konstruerte kommunikasjonsproblemer. For han politioffiseren gikk gjennom alle papirene mine, og må ha sett papirene fra City SelfStorage. Og før jeg måtte i forhøret, så tulla de med meg, på den måten, at de skreik til meg på tysk, og jeg måtte fylle ut en innreise-skjema/lapp trykket på fransk. (Og Lufthansa tulla også, de ga meg ikke innreise-skjema/lapp, selv om alle de andre passasjerene fikk en slik lapp av den tyske Lufthansa-offiseren/medarbeideren, en kar i godt voksen alder, så jeg tror noe må ha vært galt). Så dette er villede problemstillinger, fra amerikanerne, vil jeg si. Hvorfor fikk jeg ikke tolk? Nei, og da flyet landet i Paris, så dukka det opp masse unge tenåringsjenter som virra foran meg i køen, på en unaturlig måte. Det virka litt merkelig, var det noe plott fra etterettning/CIA, e.l? Jeg var jo bare i en slik situasjon, at jeg ville reise litt rundt, etter avbrudte studier i England. Jeg hadde fått ødelagt tryne mitt, i Norge, i 2003, og jeg var litt flau over å dra tilbake til Norge, så derfor ville jeg dra til USA, for jeg hadde også overhørt at jeg var forfulgt av noe 'mafian', og synes jeg ble kjentkjent i Europa. Det var slitsomt. Så jeg tenkte å dra til USA, for å få en pause fra det å bli gjenkjent osv. Derfor hadde jeg ingen bestemt tidsperspektiv på ferien, annet enn at jeg ville komme meg videre, før den 3 måneders grenser for ferie, gikk ut. Jeg ville være i USA i tre måneder, mens kanskje trynet mitt ble bedre, og så dra til Norge eller et annet sted i Europa f.eks. Jeg blir nå tullet med av norske og britiske myndigheter. Kan dette være i forbindelse med det som skjedde, at jeg fikk problemer med grensepolitiet i Detroit i 2005. Jeg har forresten også lest i Morgenbladet, at Norge skryter av å aldri ha vært en kolonimakt. Min forfar, på min mormors side, (som jeg har vært litt uvenn med vel, opp gjennom årene). Vi har krangla om dansketida, for jeg er jo 75% norsk, og 25% dansk etter min mormor, men jeg har bodd i Norge hele livet, så jeg må si at jeg egentlig bare er norsk. Og jeg og min mormor krangla, for jeg lærte på skolen, at Norge ble dårlig behandla av Danmark under dansketida, og det fortalte jeg min mormor, da jeg gikk i 1. klasse på barneskolen, Østre Halsen skole. Og jeg lurer på om min mormor er i Illumianti, og har tullet med meg etter dette, for jeg flytta til faren min, i 1979, og da ble han nesten med en gang sammen med en dame Haldis Humblen, som har en sønn, som også er New Age, og sikker Illumianti, og bor i et nedlagt bedehus i Drammen, og de tulla med meg, og lot meg bo alene fra jeg var ni år mm. Er dette min danskfødte mormors, Ingeborg Ribsskogs verk? Og som viss familie har bl.a. bodd på det Højris-slottet i Danmark, og bygget det om til et slags 'hekse-slott' med gifthave vel og en zodiac på tårn slottet har, etter ombygingen, så jeg mistenker at denne Gjedde-familien som min mormor er fra blant andre danske familier, er noe Illuminati, og at min familie, i Norge også er noe illuminati, og at de kan fortalt amerikanerne løgner om meg, og at amerikanerne derfor sa at jeg ikke hadde noen familiebånd til Norge? Og en som het Ove Gjedde, som er min mormors forfar, koloniserte Trankebar for Danmark-Norge, i sen-middelalderen vel. Kan dette være grunnen til at UD ikke vil hjelpe meg, med dette og en sak jeg har mot Arvato/Microsoft, i Liverpool, fra 2006. Den norske ambassaden i London, nekter å svare på mine henvendelser dit. Er dette på grunn av nevnte Ove Gjedde, som ødelegger UD's rykte, for Morgenbladet skriver at UD skryter av på sine nettsider, at Norge aldri har vært en kolonimakt, mens Gjedde var fra Skåne og Landet Danmark-Norge vel, og holdt til mye i Norge, i mange år. Er det derfor ambassaden i London og UD tuller med meg, jeg fikk jo ikke svar på den e-posten jeg sendte 29/4, som jeg sender en oppdatering på nå. Er det fordi at det ikke passer inn med UD's image, at jeg er en etterkommer av en som grunnla en koloni i India, for Danmark-Norge? Er det derfor jeg ikke får svar på mine henvendelser til UD og ambassaden i London, og de siste sa masse tull og, de sa 'vi hjelper ikke folk som samarbeider med kriminelle', om de som jobbet på Arvato, meg selv inkludert da, regner jeg med, men jeg har aldri vært kriminell, eller samarbeidet med kriminelle, så vidt jeg vet ihvertfall. Hva er det ambassaden ruger på av hemmeligheter? Jeg håper dere kan svare nå. Med vennlig hilsen Erik Ribsskog ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> Date: 2009/4/29 Subject: Blir tullet med av amerikanske myndigheter/Fwd: Reminder/Fwd: DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389 To: post@mfa.no Hei, jeg overhørte på Rimi Bjørndal, i 2003, at jeg var forfulgt av noe 'mafian'. Derfor dro jeg til utlandet, i 2004, for å prøve å etablere meg i utlandet, siden det jo ikke står noe avisene om noe 'mafian' i Norge. I den anledning, så endte jeg bl.a. opp i USA, i Detroit, i 2005. Jeg fikk ikke sånn innreise-skjema, av Lufthansa-personalet. Og de amerikanske immigrasjons-offisere etc., i Detroit, begynte å tulle med meg. De skrek til meg på tysk, og de ville ikke gi meg en norsk eller engelsk lapp, men jeg måtte fylle ut en fransk lapp. (Enda jeg aldri har hatt hverken fransk eller tysk på skolen, jeg kan bare noen få ord, som jeg har plukket opp på ferier osv). Mer da. Jo, så fikk jeg ikke lov å komme inn i USA, hvor jeg hadde tenkt å dra på ferie. For de trodde at jeg skulle immigrere dit ulovlig, eller noe, for de sa at jeg ikke hadde noen bånd til Norge. (Enda jeg er i HV mm). Jeg var litt i jet-lag, så jeg var ikke helt på topp. Men de sendte meg tilbake til Europa, med AirFrance og SAS, til Oslo via Paris, og jeg måtte betale selv. De sa at Lufthansa ikke ville gi meg noe hjelp til å komme meg tilbake, så det var antagelig noe med de og. Enda jeg ikke har gjort noe galt mot Lufthansa, eller andre, jeg er vant til å reise på ferie, så jeg oppfører meg sånn noenlunde, vil jeg si. Mer da. Jo, og nå, så vil ikke amerikanerne hjelpe meg, med å engang behandle klage fra meg, på at de skrek til meg på tysk, og at jeg måtte fylle ut et fransk skjema osv. Jeg har også ringt den amerikanske ambassaden i Oslo, og de sa jeg kunne ringe politiet i USA, for noen har satt opp en hat-blogg mot meg, hos Blogger, som er i USA. Men FBI, som jeg ringte da, i California, og IC3, de gjør ikke noe. Så amerikanske myndigheter gjør ingenting, med noen av disse sakene. Så jeg lurer på hva som foregår. I morgen, så skal jeg til the Home Office, i Liverpool, for å søke om asyl i Storbritannia, siden jeg ikke får noe hjelp av Kripos eller andre myndigheter i Norge. Jeg har hørt at jeg er forfulgt av noe 'mafian'. Og dette er visst snakk om en mafia bygget opp av Jens Chr. Hauge etter krigen, har en privat etterforsker tilfeligvis fortalt meg. Og det er visst ettersom min morfar, Johannes Ribsskog, hadde fornærmet eliten i AP etter krigen, Stoltenberg og Gerhardsen-familiene. Så har han fått noe mafia etter seg, og jeg synes det virker som at det er derfor jeg har fått de etter meg og. Enda jeg nesten ikke så min morfar etter at jeg flyttet til faren min, da jeg var ni år, og min morfar døde ikke så mange år etter det, og på den tiden så så jeg vel han bare en eller to ganger, tror jeg. (Men de hadde noen russiske kamera på loftet i Nevlunghavn. Min morfar og mormor, husker jeg fra da jeg var guttunge. Men min mormor, Ingeborg Ribsskog, i Nevlunhavn, hun sa på telefon ifjor, at de kameraene stammet fra en fyrvokter som bodde i huset før dem. Så sånn var det, visstnok). Men, jeg synes det er litt rart at man som norsk borger ikke kan dra på ferie til USA. Jeg ville ikke forklare om det 'mafian'-greiene til det amerikanske grensepolitiet, for jeg visste ikke om det med morfaren min, at han også var forfulgt av dem, da. Så jeg var ikke helt sikkert på hvem dette var, denne mafian. Men det er vel snakk om noe gladio da, virker det som nå. Men var redd at amerikanerne fortsatt var litt på tuppa, etter 11. september, så jeg nevnte ikke noe om 'mafian', da jeg var i sånn forhør, hvor jeg måtte sverge, på engelsk, 'to tell the thruth and nothing but the thruth, so help me God', på flyplassen i Detroit. Så jeg sa ikke noe om mafian til det amerikanske grensepolitiet i tilfelle de ville ha sendt meg til Guantamo, eller noe, for å si det på den måten. Jeg var glad bare for å komme tilbake til Europa, skal jeg være, for de amerikanerne er nok litt for hårsåre, når det gjelder folk som ikke er amerikanere. Dem er nok litt for vant til å tulle med alle mulige, forstår jeg nå. Men jeg trodde nordmenn kunne dra til USA, uten å bli behandlet på en usivilisert måte, av amerikanske myndigheter. Men det skjønner jeg nå, at ikke alltid er tilfelle. Så dette ville jeg gjerne klage på, mens jeg forsatt ikke formelt er asylsøker i Storbritannia. Med vennlig hilsen Erik Ribsskog ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> Date: Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 4:16 AM Subject: Reminder/Fwd: DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389 To: Gwen.Chase@associates.dhs.gov Hi, I can't see that I've recieved an answer to this e-mail, so I'm sending you a reminder about this. Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> Date: Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:58 PM Subject: Fwd: DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389 To: Gwen.Chase@associates.dhs.gov Hi, I'm refering to phone-call earlier today, where I said I was going to send you the e-mails regarding Trip-complaint 2040389. I'm forwarding you this and the other e-mails that I've sent to DHS Trip about this case. Please just e-mail me back if I need to explain more about the e-mails! Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:50 PM Subject: DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389 To: trip@dhs.gov Hi, I sent an online DHS TRIP complaint-form earlier today. And I'm enclosing a copy of the form, and two scans, from my passport. (Unfortunatly, I didn't have any ink on the printer now, so I just took a screen-shot, of the DHS TRIP form, and signed in Paint). Hope this is alright, please contact me if there is more information that is needed. Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog 5 attachments travel form signed.bmp 3001K scan0001.gif 1357K scan0002.gif 1926K img248.jpg 1093K img249.jpg 685K

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Nå fikk jeg brev fra amerikanske grensemyndigheter, som er usedvanlig ignorante, selv til amerikanere å være, og tror at Liverpool ligger i Norge. (N)

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in the USA i think most guys wouldnt be bothered by it unless he is a woosy - the girls might get a schlong or two swung at them though cause there's always one real idiot in the group isnt there
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Ok,

if this has happened, at the T�yenbadet, in Oslo, that the female washing staff had been washing the all age mens changing room and showers within the opening hours, or at a primary school in Norway, then it would have been a scandal in Norway.

But I guess you are thinking about a private gym, you probably don't have public gyms in the USA, do you?

In Norway, I think people tend to think that public places should be decent.

It's like when you go to the library, you don't expect that the cleaning woman is going to wash the urinal during the opening hours there, or how is this in the USA, have you got public libraries there?

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PS.

I was at Detroit Airport, in 2005.

And there weren't any Norwegian (My first language) immigration/holiday-forms, and there weren't any forms in English.

But then they had a immigration-employee there, that you reminded me of now.

He screamed at me across the hall, 'sprechen sie Deutch'.

He screamed at me, if I spoke German.

(Since the flight was from Franfurt, ant the Lufthansa-employee didn't give me a form, aboard the fligth).

Norway was occupied by nazi-Germany, during WWII, so I didn't like being screamed at in German, so I screamed back 'nicht sehr gut', since the only German I know, I've picked up from holidays etc, since my aunt used to live in Switzerland.

So I don't think the situation is that good in America any longer, since you can't afford to print forms in other languages than French and German and Spanish.

But anyway, I was sent back to Europe by the Immigration-police, (who spoke American-English, and not German), so I don't think I'll go back anyway, and risk that this will happen again.

So it isn't really a problem for me with the forms.

Your picture just reminded me of the airport immigration-control staff.

But that's how it is sometimes I guess, that one get's flashbacks like this.

I suspect it is like that.

Sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

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Re: A crazy person emails the queen
by johncons on Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:41 pm

_pinhead_ wrote:
Let me get this right... You overheard you are being followed by the Mafia in Norway. Ended up in Liverpool and also overheard the same thing?


No,

I'm refering to when I was working at Rimi Bjørndal in Oslo, in 2003.

That was when I overheard that I've been followed by the mafia.

Then I went to Sunderland in 2004.

My study-loan from the Norwegian Government loan-scheme, was delayed.

For four months, so I try to go to London, to get a job, since I lost control on the modules in Sunderland, due to I had to sort a lot of stuff in Norway.

I ended up at my uncles womans farm in Larvik in Norway around easter 2005.

I was chased from there, after working there some months, in July 2005, by someone, a hunting-team, it seemed, that I overheard wanted to shot me in my head or my balls.

But I got to Larvik train station and to Kristiansand and Hirtshals and eventually to Schipol airport on an Easyjet flight to John Lennon airport in Liverpool.

And I've been living here since.

Here I've overheard that I've been used as a target guy (and also been in something called 'the game'?).

So it has been a lot of things goving on.

I went to Detroit in 2005, and was sent back to Europe, so I suspect that the yankees could also be messing with me.

Using me as a target guy etc.

So the situation is a bit complicated, I think.

So I try to get my rights in Norway since I'm a Norweigan citizen, and I have to start in 2003, when this started.

I dont know who that mafia is, and if they are over here in Britain as well.

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

The yankees are messing with my DHS trip complaint that I have with them now, regarding Detroit in 2005, so I suspect theres something phoney with them.

http://www.ush.net/board/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=229585&p=2914765#p2914765

E-mail to the US Homeland Security.

Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

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Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>	Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:25 AM
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Hi, I can't see that I've recieved an answer to this e-mail yet, so I'm trying to send it again. Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:04 AM Subject: Fwd: 2040389 To: trip@dhs.gov Hi, I checked the tracking-function, for this complaint, on your website, today. But it still says that some documents are lacking still. I think I've sent you all the needed documents now, so I was wondering if you think you could maybe have a look at this. Thanks in advance for the help! Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: 2040389 To: trip@dhs.gov Hi, I'm refering to my call today, to the Problem Solving-department, of the Trip-department, of the Homeland Security. I was told, that there were still some pending paper-work, and we agreed that I would check up on the complaint. I had some problems with the printer, when I sent the complaint, so I just took a screenshot, of the acknowledging-page, and signed it in paint, since I was out of ink, on the printer. But since it could seem, from the call today, that there was a problem with the acknowledging-page. And since I now have ink on the printer again. Then I thought I could try to send a scanned copy of the Acknowledning-page, with a regular signature, written with a pen, and not written in paint, this time. So that the complaint, hopefully would be registered, in case this was the problem. Hope this is alright, and sorry about the problems with this page. Your sincerely, Erik Ribsskog scan0003.jpg 405K

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