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lørdag 9. august 2008

Ferskt brød er som gift. (In Norwegian).

Ferskt brød er som gift

Turister i Sirdal mater lam til døde.

SOM GIFT: Idyllen til tross: lam som bare er vant til grønt grass og mammas melk, tåler ikke brød. I Sirdal er tre lam funnet døde fordi turister har vært godtroende. Her mor og barn ved Aurlandsfjorden.
Foto: GEIR BØLSTAD.

Sirdal, Norge

Emneord

dyrenes nyheter vest-agder

Sirdal, Norge

annonse

annonse

Bønder i Sirdal kommune i Vest-Agder vil sette opp skilt langs veien for å unngå at turister gir brødmat til lam. I sommer er tre lam i Sirdal døde etter å ha spist brød.

- Ferskt brød er som gift for lammene. Når sauene blir vinterfôret med høy og kraftfôr, tåler de å spise brød. Men når lammene, som bare har gått på sommerbeite, får forsyne seg av brødene som turistene gir, stryker de rett og slett med.

- Dette har hendt flere ganger i sommer, sier sauegjeter Torleiv Lye til Sirdølen.

Han mener at det må settes opp skilt langs veien som forteller at lam og sau ikke må fôres med brød. (NTB).





http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2008/08/09/543122.html

Dagbladet skriver, at sauene dør, hvis de spiser ferskt brød.

Jeg lurer på, om brød er så bra for mennesker, når det ikke er bra for sauer.

Jeg husker da jeg var i militæret, på Terningmoen leir, i Elverum.

I infanteriet der.

Da fikk leiren ferskt brød hver dag.

Men de ventet en dag eller to, med å servere brødet i messa.

Og det var fordi det ikke var sunt, med ferskt brød, fikk vi høre.

Så om ferskt brød legger seg som en klump i magen, og sperrer fordøyelsessystemet, eller hva det gjør, det vet jeg ikke.

Men noe er det vel.

Med vennlig hilsen

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Det er jo forresten et ordtak, som heter 'rent mel i posen'.

Kanskje det er noe tull med posen, som melet har vært i?

Kan det være derfor de sauene, eller lamene, dør?

Kanskje det var derfor at bestemor Ågot, bakte brødet selv.

Hvem vet.

Fattern likte i hvertfall Birkebeiner-brød husker jeg.

Han sa at det var det beste brødet.

Og det er jo ordentlig brød, sånn at man merker at man spiser mat, når man spiser det.

Synes jeg i hvertfall.

Selv om sjefene i Rimi, ikke likte å selge mye av det brødet, for det var priset lavt, så det tjente ikke Rimi så mye penger på.

Det var i kategori E, i vareboka.

Og de kategoriene, gikk fra A til E.

Og de som var kategori E.

Det var Staburret leverpostei, Bakers kneip (Rød pose), Birkebeiner brød, Grandiosa, Gøy saft tror jeg, hm, det var mer og.

Ja, jeg kommer ikke på alle varene nå.

Evergood-kaffe, var kanskje i den kategorien, som vi ikke tjente mye penger på.

Disse varene, i kategori E, de skulle vi 'gjemme', på nederste hylle, sånn at kundene måtte bøye seg ned, for å få tak i de.

Stabburet ketchup, tror jeg også var kategori E.

Da, hvis kundene måtte bøye seg ned, så solgte ikke varene så mye, som hvis de var i syns-høyde.

Varene Rimi tjente mye på, kategori A og B, for eksempel, de skulle plasseres i syns-høyde da.

Så sånn var det.

Vareboka, forsvant forresten, en gang på slutten av 90-tallet vel.

For Rimi, fikk planogrammer.

Det er sånne kart, over hyllene, og da er det bare å bygge hylla, etter det kartet, og det pleide å bli veldig fint.

Og da var de kategoriene, innebygd, i planogrammet da.

Så da slapp butikksjefene, å tenke på det med kategori A til E.

Det var bare å være oppdatert på planogrammene, i butikken, så hjalp det på bruttoen, altså fortjenesten til butikken.

Så sånn var det.

Da jeg begynte som leder i Rimi, sommeren 1994, må det vel ha vært, som låseansvarlig, på Rimi Nylænde, på Lambertseter.

Da jobbet det en assistent der, som het Hilde, som var fra Haugerud, deromkring.

Noe sånt.

Og hun hadde vært medlem av Jehovas Vitner, og fortale meg, at de folka tulla med henne, da hun meldte seg ut.

Det var visst ille, husker jeg hun sa.

Uten at hun forklarte hva de gjorde, i detalj.

Men hun sluttet i Rimi, i 1995, eller 96.

Og da, så ble jeg assisterende butikksjef, på Nylænde, etter henne da.

Hun var ganske flink, på et personalmøte, så fortalte hun oss, at vår butikks hovedmål, var å ha fler og mer fornøyde kunder.

Så hun var ikke dum, hun forstod seg på organisasjons-teori, osv., virket det som.

Selv om jeg synes hun var litt vel bitch noen ganger.

Og noen av kundene klagde, på at hun og Elisabeth var sure.

Så jeg kan ikke helt gå god for henne, selv om hun kunne være grei å prate med, noen ganger.

Mens andre ganger, så ble hun helt 'bitch', og angrep meg, på en uhøflig og aggresiv måte.

F.eks. hvis det et ord jeg sa, som hun ikke likte, så tok hun det opp formelt, med Elisabeth, butikksjefen, og ga meg en muntlig overhøvlig mens butikksjefen hørte på da.

Så det synes jeg var litt drøyt.

Men men.

Men hun da, Hilde som hun het.

(Ikke Hilde som begynte der senere, og som var låseansvarlig der, da jeg var butikksjef på Nylænde, i 1998.

Men en som var assisterende butikksjef, og som gikk over til Rema, i 1995, tror jeg det må ha vært.

Altså en annen Hilde).

Og hun første Hilde, assistenten, som gikk over til Rema.

Hun tok med seg Rimi Varebok, til Rema.

Og den var egentlig hemmelig.

Men jeg hørte hun og Elisabeth prata om det.

Så butikksjef Elisabeth, godkjente altså dette.

Som jeg må si er høyst uregelmentert.

Selv om de var sjefene mine, og hun Hilde, var jo den som lærte meg opp, til å bli butikkleder, og sånne ting.

Og det var jo skrekk-tilstander i butikken, når Anne-Katrine Skodvin, distriksjefen, skulle dukke opp der.

Da var både Hilde og Elisabeth, i panikk.

Og jeg tror også Solveig i kassa, fra Vestlandet, Sogndal eller noe sånn kanskje.

Noe sånt.

Hun var også litt i panikk da, tror jeg.

Så hele butikken var i panikk, hele dagen nesten, helt til Anne Katrine hadde gått.

Da gikk samtalene i butikken på det temaet.

Har Anne Katrine gått?

Det var det eneste folk lurte på.

Så slappa alle av, når hu hadde gått da.

Så det var ikke sånn, at jeg hadde så bra sammarbeidsforhold med hun distriksjefen Anne Katrine.

Hun spiller litt på frykt, eller ned-psyking, i jobben som distriksjef, virket det litt som for meg.

At hun skulle være så tøff hele tida, så det ødela litt for vanlig kommunikasjon.

Og det synes ikke jeg er rikig da, at det ikke skal gå ann å kommunisere, for man må være så redd og ha så mye respekt hele tida.

Selv om jeg nok lærte å kontrollere nervene, eller hva man skal si, ved å ha mye med henne å gjøre.

For man måtte liksom være tøff selv da.

Men det er vel sånn i næringslivet, noen ganger kanskje, at folk er litt tøffe i trynet, som man sier.

Selv om jeg synes Anne-Katrine overdrev litt, som flere ledere oppover i Rimi-systemet.

Så det ble ikke til at jeg fortalte dette.

Jeg hadde jo Elisabeth som sjef og, så det ville blitt, hva heter det, noe med stue, huskestue.

Så det sa jeg ikke fra om til Anne Katrine.

Jeg var ikke helt trygg på henne, for å si det sånn.

Og jeg var ny som leder i Rimi, så jeg hadde ikke så mye kjennskap til, hvordan man burde ta opp sånne ting.

Men jeg lærte mer å tenke på sånne ting etterhvert, som leder i Rimi, jeg var jo leder i Rimi i 10 år.

Men det første året osv., da er man ikke så høy i hatten, før man kommer mer inn i systemet, da skjønner man hvordan man burde takle sånne ting.

Men jeg sier fra nå i hvertfall da.

Siden jeg aldri har likt sånn snusk.

Kanskje hun Hilde fikk en bra Rema lønn, eller ekstra frynsegoder, i Rema, siden hun ga de Rimi Vareboka.

Hva vet jeg.

Men jeg husker hun var innom Nylænde, like etter at hun hadde begynt i Rema.

Og da hadde jeg kjøpt Motorola Bravo personsøker, for å være tilgjengelig, siden jeg var, eller skulle bli, assisterende butikksjef, etter Hilde.

Og da sa Hilde, at Rema-sjefen hennes hadde gitt henne personsøker, som frynsegode.

Så ba hun om å få kikke på min personsøker da.

Så var den Motorola Bravo ganske kul da.

Jeg hadde kikka i et par butikker vel, for å se om jeg fant en kul personsøker, når jeg først skulle kjøpe det.

Jeg hadde ikke råd til mobil da, jeg prøvde å være fornuftig, og jeg hadde god kontroll på økonomien, på den tida, før jeg fikk bil osv., som ødela litt, med mye verkstedregninger osv.

Men da sa hun Hilde, at hun hadde jo bare fått en dritt-personsøker, fra Rema, som frynsegode.

Så da begynte hun nesten å grine.

I hvertfall å sutre.

Så sånn var den historien, om Birkebeiner-brød, og Rimi Varebok osv.

Så sånn var det.

Så får jeg se om jeg får gjort noe annet her og.

Vi får se.

PS 2.

Jeg husker forresten også, at hun Hilde, pratet til Elisabeth, og var bekymret over dette, at jeg hadde fått med meg, at hun hadde fått vareboka av Elisabeth, for å ta med denne til Rema.

Så da var hun Hilde nervøs, og var bekymra når hun prata med Elisabeth om det her på kontoret da.

Man blir litt årvåken, av å jobbe med folk som Hilde osv., i butikk, så da hender det at man overhører en del ting som skjer.

Men man må nesten være årvåken, ellers så kan man være uheldig, og bli tulla mye med, av enkelte sjefer osv., så det gjelder å følge med og passe på.

Så sånn er det.

Person on Chatterbox acting anoying.

Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


sigmatix
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 20:04:26

The girl did something illegal. THe police
restrained her. The police searched her. The
police in liverpool do not go around raping
girls in the middle of Matthew Street.

And there is ALWays loads of police in
matthew street at night. its a trouble
hot-spot with all the drunks and so on.

You ever thought you only saw half of what
actually happened? You make a LOT of
assumptions and I bet most of them are wrong
because you DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

And what it comes down to it, what good is
this going to do? If someone bad did happen
(which it didnt) someone (the girl in
question or a passer-by) would have done
something about it.

The reason you didnt see this in the echo is
because NOTHING HAPPENED. Some drunk girl
just got stopped and dealt with by the
police. The police were doing their job.

Your post is full of phrases like 'it seems'
and 'maybe' and 'i couldnt understand'
because you dont know and youve made
assumptions on what happened, or maybe what
you would have liked to have happened to fit
in with some of the other subjects on your
blog.

And for the record, it wasnt the new world
order that deleted the earlier thread, it was
the site moderators. Also doing their job.

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


sigmatix
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 20:07:40

And furthermore, this happened like 2 months
ago. Why on earth didnt you report it the
next day? Have you actually done anything
about this besides ramble about it on the
internet? Why didnt you intervene at the
time? Why was your first instinct, on seeing
a girl in troubel, was to take a picture and
post it on your blog weeks later? Hardly the
behaviour of a good citizen.

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


sigmatix
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 20:09:08

'Like they had done things like this many
times before, and almost didn't have to
think. '

What you mean like GOING TO ARREST SOMEONE?
Yeah, I think the police might have done that
once or twice before. Hell, it may well have
been in their training. Spooky or what?

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


sigmatix
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 20:13:01

Oh and Erik? Gerry says hi and he'll be
around next week.

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 21:10:40

Sigmatix, I think you should maybe try to
calm down a bit.

I don't think it's alright to write people
three messages, with questions/comments.

You should only write me one comment I
think.

And in a polite way.

First I think you should go for a walk around
the block, and calm down a bit.

Erik Ribsskog

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http://www.ukchatterbox.co.uk/msg/2039107

I sent the Lufthansa-complaint, to another e-mail address.




Google Mail - Complaint.










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Erik Ribsskog
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Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:36 PM




To:
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Hi,

I found your e-mail adresses, on an online directory called worldtourismdirectory.com, and I'm trying

to send the e-mail again, to this e-mail address, since there seemed to be some problems with the


first e-mail address, that I tried to send this e-mail to.

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog


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From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Subject: Complaint.
To: lufthansa@lufthansa.de


Hi,

 

on 25. February 2005, I went on a flight from Frankfurt to Detroit.


On the flight, a Lufthansa officer, asked me which country I was from, and I said Norway,

and then I wasn't given a US Imigration-form, like all the other passengers got.


So then I got a bit of problems, in the passport-control, in Detroit, since there weren't

any Norwegian or English forms there.


They asked me if I spoke German, but I only speak a bit German, that I've learned

on holidays etc., so then I was given a French form, by the Detroit passport-control

officers, when I explained them, that I didn't speak that much German.

 

And then, later, the Airport Police, refused me entry to the US, for some obscure

reason.


And then they also told me, that I had to go back to Europe, but that Lufthansa, didn't

want to help, with getting back to Europe.


So I was wondering about, and wanted to complain, about these things:

 

1. Why wasn't I given an imigration/holiday-form aboard the flight?

 

2. Why were Lufthansa unwilling to offer me a ticket back to Europe, (like the Detroit Airport Police explained to me)?

 

I hope you have the chance to explain about these incidents, since I think they were a bit strange.

 

Yours sincerely,


Erik Ribsskog










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Her er det noen i Tyskland, som leser om, på en direkte link, at jeg har begynt å publisere Arvato/Microsoft-dokumentene, på Skribd, som det heter.

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9th August 2008 20:21:01



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PS.

Men disse har ikke søkt på Google for eksempel, og funnet bloggen min, på den måten.

Disse fant bloggen min, ved at de hadde en direkte link til bloggen min, som de tastet inn, i Internet Explorer f.eks.

Som de antagelig har fått i en e-post, eller noe da.

Dette kan man se, der det står 'No referring link'.

Det betyr, at de ikke har gått til bloggen min, fra en annen webside, men fra en link, f.eks. i en e-post, eller i favoritter da.

Så sånn er det.

Med vennlig hilsen

Erik Ribsskog

Og til de politi-drittsekkene som driver å piner meg. (In Norwegian).

Jeg kommer til å kakke skallen av en purk.

Nå er jeg jævlig forbanna.

Erik Ribsskog

More about the girl that was being messed with, by Police, in Matthew St.

Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


sigmatix
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 16:36:31

What on earth do you mean 'raped in some
way'?

There is only one way for someone to be
raped.

And are you seriously suggesting that several
policemen sexually assaulted someone in full
view of the public in a busy city centre
simply for the sake of it?

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 16:51:18

Like I've written twice already, in the
thread that seems to have disappeared.

It seems to me that the girl must have been
the subject of a cavity-check, or that the
Police raped the poor thing, like the user on
LiveLeak wrote it.

I'm just writing what I saw with my own eyes,
I don't want to speculate, on why the Police
acted like this.

That one would have to ask the Police.

So I'll just explain what I saw happened.

That's why I brought it up here, to tell what
I saw, and to get feedback, on what people
think has been going on.

This has been puzling on my mind, for some
time, why the girl was made to bend over the
litter-bin, for at least five to ten
minuttes, and why she was made to howl.

Erik Ribsskog

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 17:36:51

And to write more about the woman.

She wasn't acting like a 'scally-girl', or
anything like that.

She wasn't agressive at all.

She was screaming the whole time.

And she acted like a woman really, she was
defenseless against the brutal man, and the
police-officers.

She was in panic, I'd say, and afraid, or in
shock.

I couldn't understand why she screamed, I
tried to look at her, to understand what went
on, when I was standing there, but I couldn't
understand.

She didn't look agressive, but she looked
like she was in pain, and that she didn't
have any control of what went on.

Like an animal that was being hunted, and was
in pain.

Something like that.

Just to try to explain.

Erik Ribsskog

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 18:59:41

I've tried to recall what went on.

When I saw this sceen, the brutal man, was
holding the arm of the woman, on her back I
think it was, and at the same time, pushing
the woman, up Matthew St.

And they were being followed by between eight
and eleven police-officers, I'd say.

So it was a very strange situation, to
suddently be in the middle of.

When they were maybe a meter or two, in front
of me, the man grabbed the womans breast, and
pushed her or let her go.

The police-officers, where right in their
heels.

It could maybe have been, that the man, took
the woman, as a hostage.

And that he was a criminal, being followed by
the police.

The man, looked like he was in his late
twenties or thirties, I'd say.

He had a very though look in his face, and
might have been a hard-boiled criminal, one
could guess.

He looked strong, like he was working with
some kind of body-work, or something like
that.

Not the guy you would want to meet, in a dark
alley, at night, if he was in a bad mood, to
explain it like that.

I can't understand why he would grab the
womans breast.

She was screaming before he did that also I
think.

Maybe in fear, or in panic, or in pain.

The police-officers, where controling her, in
no-time, like she was a criminal, three or
four, went after her.

And three or four, went after the man.

Almost like an army-drill, from the Police.

They seemed very coordinated.

Like they had done things like this many
times before, and almost didn't have to
think.

The girl didn't say anything at all, and
didn't act agressive at all, against the
Police, who placed her next to the
litter-bin, some meters away, from where the
man let her go.

I couldn't really see what happened to the
man, but I thought the Police managed to
catch him, and that three or four of them,
brought him somewhere, possibly to a car.

But he could have also managed to get away, I
didn't manage to notice exactly what
happened.

But that some type of strange/serious
situation has happened, that's clear to me.

I can't really say, what the Police did to
the girl for at least five or ten minutes,
when she was leaning over the litter-bin, and
screamed.

But I think it looked like the
Police-officers, went far to close to her,
and I think the female police-officer, should
have been frisking her, or what they did.

So I didn't see exactly what the Police did,
since they covered the view so well, so one
couldn't see where they touched the girl
etc.

But the whole situation, looked very strange
to me, so I think that it's highly possible
that the Police did something wrong.

But I'm not an expert on Police-work.

People knowing more about how the Police are
meant to do their work, would be able to
explain more, if the Police did anything
wrong or not.

A user, on LiveLeak, thought, like I've
written earlier, that the Police could have
been doing a cavety-search, or raped the poor
thing, like he wrote.

But it could also be, that they just tried to
calm her down, in some strange way.

I can't say for sure unfortunatly, since I
couldn't understand why the girl screamed.

I didn't see anyone doing anything to her,
like the mentioned things.

But she was so sheltered/covered, by the
three police-officers, so it might have been
that the fourth officer, did something
illigal, like the user on LiveLeak
mentioned.

But I think that if I tell what I saw, then
maybe other people, with more knowledge of
the Police-rutines, could understand more
about, what really went on.

So it would be interesting, if someone, that
were experienced in Police-work, could try to
explain the situation.

Also, I think it's strange, that this
incident, haven't been in the news, like in
the Echo, or something like that, since it
didn't seem like something that should happen
on your normal Saturday night, out on town,
to me.

Erik Ribsskog

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Thread that was deleted from the UKChatterbox (some New World Order stuff?), about that the Police seemes to have raped a girl in Matthew St., Lpool.

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Police raped girl in Matthew St.,
Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 20:50:14 Edited by:fsm

I've reported on LiveLeak[censored], that a
couple of months ago, on a Saturday night,
when I was walking down Matthew St., I saw a
guy, pushing a girl infront of himself,
grabing her breast hard, before letting her
go, just before, about eight or ten
police-officers, cought up with them.

Three Police-officers, got control on the
girl, and surrounded her, after placing her,
next to a litter-bin.

Then the frisking, or what it was, began.

The girl was made to bend over the
litter-bin, while all three Police-officers
were standing very close, one hidden by the
two others, and even by a fourt officer, who
was standing back to back, with the three
earlier mentioned officers.

Then the moaning/howling from the girl began,
and went on for at least five to ten minutes,
while she was standing there, bending over
the litter-bin.

A user on LiveLeak, thought that the Police,
could have conducted a cavety-search, or
raped the poor thing, like he wrote.

The girl looked like a vitim of the earlier
mentioned man, pushing her up Matthew St., to
me, so I don't understand what the Police,
were doing, she seemed harmless, and there
shouldn't be any reason to do anything with
her, that made her scream/howl/moan, for five
to ten minutes.

I couldn't actually see any frisking eighter,
the policeofficer, who did the frisking, or
what it was, was hidden by the other
officers.

But the girl had going-out clothes, so I
can't see why the Police would need to frisk
her eighter.

So, I wonder if the user on LiveLeak was
right, that Police raped or abused her, and
that this was the reason for the howling
etc.

I took a picture of the incident, which I
posted on LiveLeak.

I'll see if I can find the link.

So if anyone understand what went on, then
feedback about this, would be appriciated,
because I don't think the Police should do
things like these.

Erik (edited)

PS.

Here's the link to the post regarding this
incident, on LiveLeak:

(edited)

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


mysterious_x
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 20:51:21

oh thats bad

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


diamond001
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 20:51:55

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


mysterious_x
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 20:52:48

the police seem to think they can do woteva
they like and get away with it

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


apapa
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 20:59:45

The picture is nothing like your story. There
are 2 female officers and one male. Maybe she
was annoyed and drunk moaning, maybe she was
throwing up. How do you get that she was
being raped by them?

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


apapa
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 21:04:34

Sorry, just to add that by posting this on
not one but at least 3 websites you've left
yourself open in case the police would like
to prosecute you for slander. I thank you and
goodnight

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


mysterious_x
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 21:08:21

lmao

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 21:12:15 Edited by:fsm

No, there were four Police-officers
surrounding the girl.

I've explained about it here:

(edited)

And I remember that the officer frisking the
girl, or what he did, was not a female
officer.

And there is freedom of speach, people are
allowed to write about what they see.

And I think people have a responsiblity, to
report things like abuse from Police, this is
of course the only responsible thing to do,
one can't let the Police get away with
everything, and acting like they think they
are Judge Dreed, like it seems to me that
they think.

And it seems to me, that this get worse and
worse, so I think people have a
responsiblity, to report abuse and other
types of unprofessional conduct, from the
Police.

Erik (edited)

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


mysterious_x
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 21:15:24

only female officers are allowed to frisk
females and males to frisk males

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


apapa
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 21:22:35

and she was from Liverpool
And you're from where?
From my youth I know there are plenty things
you can hide in plenty places despite wearing
tight clothes. Theres a distinct lack of
female bouncers on club doors so who do you
think carries stuff into clubs? The girls. If
your so upset complain to the police about
what you think you saw. Months ago.

You have no idea what the girl was doing, who
the man was, what the police did or didn't do
to her. Just you carry on making it up as you
go along luv.

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


reptiliantracker
Date: 2008-08-08
Time: 21:27:09 Edited by:chris20

i saw that link my self !

it doesn't need an interpretation !

actions speak for them self .

she was stripped ! end stop .
by 2 women and one man !

i saw that link my self on martial law police
.what they can do at present and get away
with , and so martial law will be worse .

why ?

coz too many [censored] footing bstrds walk
bye and do nothing ! too many accept this
behaviour and condone it in their inactions
as not their business .
it is due to these inactors that these laws
and acts are committed !
if people actually woke up and got off their
fat ass than done something , authorities
would not do such things in our faces !

wake up people , it doesn't matter if they
are a crook or police or the [censored] king
of bloody Babylon !

YOU HAVE A DUTY TO HUMANITY !

we are what we do !

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 00:10:59 Edited by:fsm

Ok,

I wasn't aware of that someone had posted
about this on yet another site.

You haven't got a link by the way, since I
think it would have been interesting to see
what the people other site thinks.

Thanks in advance if you have the time to
find the link!

Erik (edited)

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


benibabe
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 00:13:22

shockinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


angellove
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 00:40:07

wow..
<<<<speachless>>>>>
;

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


tinzel501
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 01:17:14

wtf?????????

fooking bizzies grrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


apapa
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 12:03:51

If you look really closely you can see Elvis
in the background too, standing next to Lord
Lucan. What are you [censored]ing about? You
did nothing yourself. Is this to appease your
conscience over something that may or may not
have happened and your impotent actions on
the night and for months after?

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


reptiliantracker
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 12:08:39

apapa ?

sounds like you've hit a point there apapa !

i do hate cowardice my self .

we are what we DO and do not .

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


soulguider
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 13:51:30

looks to me like a set up.. a stunt to bad
mouth the police.. just another excuse for
ppl to shout "POLICE BRUTALITY".
as for the creator of this thread to stand by
and do nothing then ur as bad the rest...!!
if this was real why wud you just stand
there..?
you just another sick voyeur..!!

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


reptiliantracker
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 14:09:22

the thead is about a true situation on camera
but at the end of it all we have no idea if
those in it were actors .

iether way , a person who stands there doing
nothing about it is condoning it through
inaction that accepts the present situation .

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 15:16:28 Edited by:fsm

Just a little reminder, since I started this
thread.

And that is, that this thread is about what
the Police did.

If someone want to discuss what I did, then
please just contact me on my blog, which the
address of, is listed in my profil here.

Then it should be easier to stick to the case
here, which is the Police's actions.

Just so that the thread isn't going out of
track.

Hope this is alright!

Erik (edited)

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


antagonizer
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 15:24:14

i have not heard anything about this and i
work security and the doors in and around
wigan an have constant link with the police
frequency i think this is a wind up ! and a
sick 1 at that (peace out )

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


reptiliantracker
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 15:27:24

antagoniser ?

last 2 nights on the net i saw a u toob on
police brutality on martial law .
it was no wind up .

but !

cannot prove was police .

as for the thread creator , i was getting at
you , just saying that people who do nothing
at the time , are not worthy of citizenship
let alone living here as we British have a
duty to hold up for all humanity .

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


missdiorcherie
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 15:43:23

if that story is true, then thats awful and
something should def be done about it
but if its not, with all ur talk of
moaning/screaming/howling, i think i need to
get me some

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


sigmatix
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 16:18:57

This isnt a wind-up, but neither is it true.
I suggest you all have a look at this guy's
blog. Some very...erm...interesting stuff on
there. It gives this post some context.

Look at the picture regarding this. Its
night- time, on Matthew street (one of the
busiest parts of that street too) in full
view of the public. And your seriously
expecting us to believe this girl was raped.
By the Police. In full view of passing
memebers of the public?

Ill tell you what probably happened. The girl
did something wrong, drunk and disorderly,
having a fight, I dont know. The police are
simply restraining her from hurting herself
or others. They are searching her (which is
normal procedure for anyone whos committed a
crime) and general following procedure.

Anything else I genuinely think is a product
of the same over-active imaganation thats
produced that blog:
[censored]johncons-mirror.blogspot[censored]/
search/label/The%20Queen%20of%20England
[censored]johncons-mirror.blogspot[censored]/
search/label/Liverpool%20Central%20CAB
[censored]johncons-mirror.blogspot[censored]/
search/label/Burger%20King

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


sigmatix
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 16:20:58

Its a pain with the censoring 'www' and
'[censored]'? If thats supposed to stop spam
and such its a bit of a sledgehammer to crack
a nut. *shrug* oh well.

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Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
St., Liverpool, it seems.


johncons
Date: 2008-08-09
Time: 16:26:38

Not at all,

I'm just telling you what I saw with my own
eyes.

I've been wondering about whay made the girl
howl.

And a person on LiveLeak, who seemed to know
a thing about police-work, wrote that he
thought it might have been a cavety-cheek, or
that they raped the poor thing, like he
wrote.

Like I wrote earlier, there were three
police-officers surrounding the girl, and a
forth, covering them, standing back to back.

I think it seems like the Police must have
raped the girl in some way.

Since she was bending over the litter-bin,
and howling, for at least five to ten
minutes, while a male police-officer, was
doing something between her legs, covered by
three other police-officers.

Erik Ribsskog

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