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Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Referanse fra OBS Triaden

Arild.Johannessen@coop.no
<Arild.Johannessen@coop.no>

Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM

To:
eribsskog@gmail.com

Erik Ribskog

Dette var en svært sammensatt og utfordrende fortelling.

Jeg oversender den internt i Coop.

Arild Johannessen

Coop Norge Informasjon og samfunnskontakt

Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sendt: 8. desember 2009 15:57

Til: _Alle i Informasjonsavdelingen

Emne: Referanse fra OBS Triaden

Hei,

jeg jobba på OBS Triaden, på begynnelsen av 90-tallet, fra høsten 1990 til høsten 1992, først heltid, vikariat, (ansatt av Klara), og jeg jobbet der med John Ellingsen, som butikksjef, (han som ble sammen med hu Brit fra Trøndelag, som satt i kassa, som
kollega av meg, men som senere ble kassaleder der vel).

Jeg fikk jobben, for jeg hadde jobba på CC Storkjøp, i Drammen, ved siden av videregående, i skoleåret 1988/89.

Så sånn var det.

Så slutta kassaleder Helene, og begynte på Rema Furuset, (hos en som het Paulsen vel).

Så begynte det ei ny kassaleder der, fra OBS Lillestrøm vel, da de kjøpte opp OBS Triaden.

Men hu nye kassalederen der, hu tulla med meg, da jeg var i militæret, og ville knapt gi meg vakter, når jeg hadde høstperm, enda vi hadde en avtale om dette.

Så da begynte jeg i Rimi, hvor jeg jobba i 12 år, blant annet fire år som butikksjef, (for jeg kjente en fra skolen i Drammen, da jeg jobba på CC, som var butikksjef i Rimi, Magne Winnem, som var sjef på Rimi Munkelia).

For jeg var i infanteriet, i militæret, og da gikk det mye penger, til myggservietter, og sjokolade og røyk og varmeposer og det som var, på øvelsene.

For jeg var så tynn, for jeg bodde alene fra jeg var ni år nemlig, for faren min Arne M. Olsen, tulla med meg, så det var slitsomt for meg i infanteriet, siden jeg var så tynn.

Så da trengte jeg penger, sånn at jeg skulle holde humøret oppe, med sjokolade og røyk og varmeposer osv., på øvelser.

For militæret betalte ikke så mye, så derfor ville jeg gjerne jobbe når jeg hadde ferie fra militæret.

Og det hadde jeg en muntlig avtalte med hu kassalederen der om.

Men når jeg kom for å få vakter, så avviste hun meg.

Så ringte ei og sa hu var syk, mens jeg stod der.

Så da fikk jeg jobbe likevel.

Men det var jo egentlig et løftebrudd, sånn som jeg så det, for det var jo bare fordi ei ringte og var syk det, ellers måtte jeg gått hjem, uten å få jobbe.

Så etter den høstferien, så fikk jeg jobb på Rimi Munkelia, i Oslo, hvor jeg begynte å jobbe, juleferien 1992.

Jeg sendte brev fra militæret, i Elverum, til John Ellingsen, butikksjef, OBS Triaden, om referanse, men han skrev ikke noe ordentlig brev til meg, enda jeg purret, jeg fikk bare et enkelt skjema.

Og en gang, noen år seinere på 90-tallet, så var jeg innom OBS Triaden, og da var hu Brit, som ble dama til Ellingsen, mens jeg jobba der, da var hu noe slags sjef der.

Så klagde jeg, på at jeg ikke fikk ordentlig referanse, fra Ellingsen, og da sa hu Brit, at jeg kunne gå inn og 'ta'n', hvis jeg ville.

Men det syntes jeg ble for dumt, at kona sendte meg inn på kontoret for å ta nærmest 'ektemannen', så det droppa jeg.

Så dere burde ikke ha ektefolk som ledere, eller samboere, det blir tull på arbeidsplassen, mener jeg!

Men men.

Og hu Helene, fra Finland vel, hu var ikke hyggelig mot meg, når jeg handla på REMA Furuset, da jeg var i militæret og seinere, kanskje fordi hu satt i kassa.

Hu mobba meg fordi jeg alltid spiste det samme, (pizza grandiosa, cola og tortilla chips).

Men militæret var jo tøft for meg, så jeg trøstespiste litt da, og ble mobbet av hu Helene i kassa, på REMA Furuset.

(For jeg bodde i Skansen Terrasse, på Ellingsrudåsen, så jeg bare gikk i ti minutter, fra Furuset, langs Gamle Strømsveien vel, så var jeg på Ellingsrudåsen, for jeg bodde helt Øst på Ellingsrudåsen, mot grensa til Furuset nesten).

Så sånn var det.

Men kanskje hu Liss, som var kassaleder, deltid, kunne vært referanse, lurte jeg.

For jeg har en arbeidssak mot Rimi, i Norge, og mot Bertelsmann/Microsoft i England, så jeg må gå langt tilbake.

Og Ellingsen og hu Helene har jeg ikke så bra inntrykk av lengre.

Men jeg kan ikke huske at hu Liss gjorde noe galt vel.

Og hu fra Østen, hu begynte også å jobbe på Rema Furuset, så hu blir som å ha Helene som referanse nesten, synes jeg.

Men men.

Men kanskje han høye fra Spesialvaren, hva het han da, Lars-Erik(?), for jeg jobba i de fleste avdelingene, og hadde ansvaret for sommer-spesialvareavdelingen, på noen vakter, sommeren 91 eller 92.

Kanskje han kunne vært referanse?

Enten han, eller hu Liss, vil jeg si.

Noe sånt.

Men ikke Claus, for han var litt sånn useriøs, og bare ga konfektesker til kunder, uten å føre de opp som svinn osv., noe som sikkert kundene var glad for, hvis de klagde, så kundene ble jo fornøyde da.

Men jeg vet ikke om det var riktig å gjøre det sånn.

Vi får se.

Jeg har prøvd å kontakte Knut Hauge, som også jobba i kassa heltid, på OBS Triaden, det året jeg jobba heltid.

Det er fordi at han var sammen med hu Lene fra Rælingen, som også jobba heltid der.

Så det var mye par, vil jeg klage på, på OBS Triaden.

Det var Knut Hauge og hu Lene, i kassa.

Det var søstrene Britt og Elin, fra Trøndelag, i kassa.

Det var John Ellingsen og hu Britt, som ble et par, og jobba der i mange år, vel som et par, tror jeg.

Og til og med han som var disponent der, før OBS Lillestrøm tok over, han fant seg ei kassadame, på knapt 20 år vel, og de hadde visst hatt hete omfavnelser på spiserommet, noe personalet prata om.

Så det var ikke helt bra det som foregikk på OBS Triaden.

Men men.

Jeg prøver å få tak i hu Lene fra Rælingen, (som seinere begynte i Se og Hør), for han Knut Hauge, ville ikke si hva hu het til etternavn, (de er ikke sammen lengre nå), enda de var samboere, i Groruddalen, på Ammerud, eller noe sånt.

Det husker jeg, for jeg pleide å sitte på med de hjem fra jobben, og noen ganger ble jeg med på omveier da.

Men men.

Mer da.

Jo, så dro hu Lene oss andre i kassa, med til LO, i Oslo, av en eller annen grunn, i 1991 eller 92.

I Storgata, i Oslo, var vel det.

Og nå har jeg en sak, som jeg nevnte, mot Rimi og Bertelsmann/Microsoft, som jeg tar bl.a. med LO.

Og da skulle jeg likt å visst hva det LO-møte var igjen som hu Lene dro oss med på.

For jeg husker ikke hva det var om, for jeg var ikke sånn da, som 20-22 åring, at jeg var veldig engasjert i sånne LO-saker og sånn.

Dette var bare en jobb jeg hadde, til jeg fikk utdannelsen min ferdig, jobben min på OBS, for jeg tok meg et friår, etter at jeg hadde gått et år på NHI, en datahøyskole, for å spare opp litt penger, og få pause fra kjedelige studier, siden jeg hadde gått på
skole i 13 år, og det var en privat høyskole, så vanlig studielån strakk ikke til, så jeg kunne ikke ha tatt det på to år, uten jobb.

Jeg måtte bedre økonomien min, for jeg helt på bånn økonomisk, så derfor hadde jeg et jobbeår, i skoleåret 1990/91, og fikk et halvt års vikariat av Klara, på OBS Triaden, (som het Matland de første månedene jeg jobba der).

Så jobba jeg også mye det neste et og et halvt året, etter at vikariatet utløp, også etter at jeg begynte å studere heltid, høsten 1991.

Så jeg prøver å få tak i referanse, og jeg prøver å finne ut om det LO-greiene, så jeg håper dere kan hjelpe meg med ihverfall etternavna på Liss og Lene, og han høye, som var leder for Spesialvareavdelinga, på OBS Triaden, i 1991 og 92, ihvertfall.

På forhånd takk for eventuell hjelp!

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

Coop tar ansvar for miljøet - tenk deg om før du skriver ut denne e-posten

Jeg sendte en ny e-post til ICE

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Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

FW: can you please forward to eribsskog@gmail.com

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:22 PM

To:
ICE@dwp.gsi.gov.uk

Hi,

also, in the meeting at the Jobcenter next week.

Am I supposed to present the ICE-complaint against Mr. Stevenson?

Also, he sent me home some folders, for people with a medical condition, even if I haven't got one.

What's this bullying about?

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: FW: can you please forward to eribsskog@gmail.com
To: DWP ICE gateway team <ICE@dwp.gsi.gov.uk>

Hi,

it has been a lot of correspondence, so I wont refer to the previous correspondence, I'll just explain.

I've also been given this excuse, by the CAB in the UK, that e-mails are new, so Brits don't understand how to deal with them.

I think this is a bad excuse, since e-mails have been around, for maybe twenty years.

And if the e-mail procedures aren't working, then this is also the mangers responsibility.

So please don't try to cover up for the jobcenter!

I'm sure that it was agreed in my meeting with the Mrs. Hart, that she would send me a written response, a summary from our meeting.

Of course I wouldn't be content without some sort of document to use as a reference later, if needed.

3. I also mentioned these point, in the phone-call with ICE, last week.

Another point I mentioned, was that I wasn't given time to prepare, for the meeting with Mrs. Hart.

I was just told, in a review-meeting, that the manager wanted to speak with me, after the review meeting.

I think one would want to prepare, for meetings, like the one with the manager at the Jobcenter, so I think I should have received a letter with an agenda for the meeting, some days before the meeting with Mrs. Hart, so that I could have prepared for the meeting.

I would have wanted ICE to include these complaints, in your investigation.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:43 PM, DWP ICE gateway team <ICE@dwp.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:

Mr Ribsskog

Thank you for your email for ease of reference I shall
respond in the order of the responses raised

1. Why she pretended that she hadn't received the initial complaint
e-mail I sent.

(Since I know this was sent to her, since my reply from the jobcenter e-mail
center, was sent to me and Mrs Hart.

Yet in my meeting with Mrs. Hart, she said she hadn't seen this e-mail).

I was under the impression from the Chief Executive response
you received this had been addressed, as the office concerned was reviewing
email procedures, however once the
initial response is received I can follow up with this question.

2. Why I haven't received a written summary from the meeting with Mrs.
Hart, like she told me she would send.

again I can follow up with this query, although from your
email of 28/10/09 you say you were not asked if you
wanted a response, so it seemed unclear if you required one.

On to your questions today:

1. I would like you to give written warnings to Mrs. Hart and Mrs.
Henderson, since they are acting inprofessional and out of line.

I am afraid this is not something within the remit of this
office please see below.

Jobcentre Plus has guidance that sets out what action
should be taken if a customer complains about the behaviour of staff. The
guidance states that complaints must be investigated thoroughly and if the
member of staff is exonerated, the complainant should be informed. If, on
the other hand, the investigation reveals evidence of maladministration we
would expect t Jobcentre Plus to advise the complainant and consider
appropriate redress. Complainants will not be advised of the nature of
any disciplinary action taken as a result of the investigation.

Perhaps they will act more responsible if they get a warning.

2. I have humiliated, by the Jobcenter, since I have to take insults
from Mrs. Henderson, and my complaint about this, isn't treated in a
responsible way.

So I would have thought that a written apology, from the Jobcenter, perhaps
wouldn't have been to much, to perhaps expect.

If
maladministration is identified we can request an apology, however if can
you provide specific details of insults from Mrs Henderson I may be able to
obtain or provide some form of explanation.

My role within this office is to obtain resolution of a
complaint without the need to request case papers from Jobcentre Plus, however
if you feel it would be more suitable for a further investigation to take place
please let me know.

I hope this answers your questions.

Thank You

John
Rawlings

Resolution Officer

Independent Case Examiners
Office

0151 801 8839
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RS472449

Mr Erik Ribsskog

Flat 3
5 Leather Lane
LIVERPOOL
L2 2AE

8 December 2009

ICE Ref No: DWP00811/09

Dear Mr Ribsskog

Thank you for your email of 4 December 2009. As there are new issues raised I have passed this to our gateway team who will contact you shortly. In your email you requested that we cancel your next review meeting at your local Jobcentre Plus office. I must inform you that this office is not in a position to get involved in the day to day running of your case with Jobcentre Plus. It may also be in your best interests to attend the meeting as failure to do so may affect your benefit entitlement. You should contact your local Jobcentre Plus office to discuss this further.

In relation to the complaint I have been passed for examination, my colleague contacted you on 25 November 2009 to discuss your complaint about Jobcentre Plus Your complaint has been agreed and defined as follows:

You submitted a complaint to Jobcentre Plus regarding the conduct of a member of its staff during an interview you attended on 21 May 2009. Jobcentre Plus has failed to deal with your complaint in a timely and appropriate manner.

6. I will ask Jobcentre Plus to take the following course of action to address your complaint:

· Provide details of the action taken to investigate your complaint;

· Provide an explanation why your Jobcentre Plus advisor was not changed as discussed in your meeting with Mrs Hart;

7. Should you wish to provide this office with any further information or evidence in relation to your complaint, we will use the details you provide, along with those provided by Jobcentre Plus to inform our examination of your complaint.

8. I will keep you informed of any developments on your case. However, if you wish to discuss this letter, my address and telephone number are on the first page of this letter.

Yours sincerely

John Rawlings

Resolution Officer

Jeg sendte en ny e-post til the Independant Case Examiner, for jobcenter-klager

Google Mail - FW: can you please forward to Eribsskog@gmail.com

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

FW: can you please forward to Eribsskog@gmail.com

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:52 PM

To:
DWP ICE gateway team <ICE@dwp.gsi.gov.uk>

Hi,

I also think you should ask the jobcenter manager, like I explained in the phone-call last week.

1. Why she pretended that she hadn't received the initial complaint e-mail I sent.

(Since I know this was sent to her, since my reply from the jobcenter e-mail center, was sent to me and Mrs Hart.

Yet in my meeting with Mrs. Hart, she said she hadn't seen this e-mail).

2. Why I haven't received a written summary from the meeting with Mrs. Hart, like she told me she would send.

On to your questions today:

1. I would like you to give written warnings to Mrs. Hart and Mrs. Henderson, since they are acting inprofessional and out of line.

Perhaps they will act more responsible if they get a warning.

2. I have humiliated, by the Jobcenter, since I have to take insults from Mrs. Henderson, and my complaint about this, isn't treated in a responsible way.

So I would have thought that a written apology, from the Jobcenter, perhaps wouldn't have been to much, to perhaps expect.

But anyway.

I'll go to the meeting on the Jobcenter, on Thursday next week then, so we'll see how that goes.

Thanks very much for your answer about this, so that I know what to do next week!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:35 PM, DWP ICE gateway team <ICE@dwp.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:

Dear Mr Ribsskog

Please find attached letter in response to your complaint I
have been asked for examination. In addition, I would be grateful if you
could provide the following:

1. Details of what you would like this office to achieve for
you from your complaint:

2. Details of the consequences you have suffered from the
service you have received.

I will ask Jobcentre Plus for further details relating to
your complaint. These should be provided in approximately 2 weeks
time. Once I have received a response I will write to you.

Thank You

John
Rawlings

Resolution Officer

Independent Case Examiners
Office

0151 801 8839
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This document is strictly confidential and is intended only for use by the addressee.

If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other

action taken in reliance of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited.

Any views expressed by the sender of this message are not necessarily those of the Department

for Work and Pensions.

If you have received this transmission in error, please use the reply function to tell us

and then permanently delete what you have received.

Please note: Incoming and outgoing e-mail messages are routinely monitored for compliance

with our policy on the use of electronic communications.

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PS.

Her er brevet de sendte med den siste e-posten:

Mr Erik Ribsskog

Flat 3
5 Leather Lane
LIVERPOOL
L2 2AE

8 December 2009

ICE Ref No: DWP00811/09

Dear Mr Ribsskog

6. I will ask Jobcentre Plus to take the following course of action to address your complaint:

· Provide details of the action taken to investigate your complaint;

· Provide an explanation why your Jobcentre Plus advisor was not changed as discussed in your meeting with Mrs Hart;

8. I will keep you informed of any developments on your case. However, if you wish to discuss this letter, my address and telephone number are on the first page of this letter.

Yours sincerely

John Rawlings

Resolution Officer

Hu Sophie Linvall Johnsson fra Arvato, hu jobber visst på Bosch, eller noe nå, virker det som, der hu Emelie Wallin, (også fra Sverige), vel jobber

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PS.

Jeg tar med om dette, for jeg har skrevet om, på bloggen, at hu Sophie hadde problem med typen sin, her i Liverpool, i 2005.

Så sånn var det.

Hu kjente også hu Margrethe Augestad, fra Gulskogen, i Drammen.

Og hu har jobba på Dell tror jeg, i Speke, eller noe, utafor Liverpool.

Men kanskje hu har begynt på Bosch nå hu og.

Hvem vet.

Det er vel ikke umulig.

Bare noe jeg la merke til på StatCounter.

Vi får se.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

Jeg kontakta OBS, om referanser osv., fra da jeg jobba på OBS Triaden, på begynnelsen av 90-tallet

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Referanse fra OBS Triaden

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:56 PM

To:
info@coop.no

Hei,

jeg jobba på OBS Triaden, på begynnelsen av 90-tallet, fra høsten 1990 til høsten 1992, først heltid, vikariat, (ansatt av Klara), og jeg jobbet der med John Ellingsen, som butikksjef, (han som ble sammen med hu Brit fra Trøndelag, som satt i kassa, som kollega av meg, men som senere ble kassaleder der vel).