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Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan











Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>



Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM




To:
Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>






Hi,

ok, thanks very much for the reply!

My father once said something vague about the Finnish-forrest, (Finnskogen), in the 1980's.

So I'm wondering if they really went there, and just pretended to have been in America.


Thanks very much for the reply again.

Maybe that silver-treasure is a phoney treasure, made by the Finns, to make it look like Numedalen wasn't that Norwegian after all, in the Viking-age, (since the coins in the treasure were form far away), I've been thinking.


Who knows.

Thank you very much again for checking up about this!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog



On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:






Hello,


Sorry that I am just answering this now. My wireless connection was down for several days.


I do not believe that Gullek Toeiet Gulleksson Gulleksrud lived in Rollag, Minnesota. That name has not shown up in any records. Also, I looked at the 1890 and 1900 U.S. Census records and could not find his name anywhere in the U.S. Perhaps he changed his name when he came to America. I am sorry I cannot help you.


Dennis


--- On Mon, 1/30/12, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
To: "Dennis Herbranson" <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Monday, January 30, 2012, 12:35 AM




Hi,


sorry to bother you again, but I've now found more information about my great-grandmothers uncle, Gullek Gulleksson Toeiet Gulleksrud, who moved to the USA, in 1885, with his wife Åse, and my great-grandmother Bergit, as a foster-daughter.


After they had moved back to Rollag, (to the farm Me-Traaen), Gullek found a well-known/famous viking silver-treasure, in 1906, on his farm, in Rollag.



(A treasure from the viking-age).


Do you know if this Gullek Toeiet Gulleksson Gulleksrud has lived in Rollag, USA?

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog



PS.


Here is a link with more information, (in Norwegian), about the treasure that Gullek found, in 1906:








On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:






Hello,


Sorry to hear about your family's secrecy. That is the case with many families and only they know why there is secrecy. Good luck with your search for your roots.


Sincerely,


Dennis


--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:



From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan

To: "Dennis Herbranson" <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:44 PM




Hi,

yes I have those pages from the Rollag Bygdebøker.

(The library there sent me them, since I contacted them, a few weeks ago).

So I have those scans.

I can try to contact the library in Jefferson Prairie, Wisconsin, and

hear if they have some of information about my great grandmother and
her parents and/or foster-parents.

This link between my family and America, is something that my family
have kept hidden for me.

My father have a new woman, Haldis Humblen, that he has been living

with, since 1980, but not married.

And she has relatives in the Order of St. John, which they also have
kept hidden for me.

And on my mothers side, they have kept hidden, that the baron Adeler,
was in our line.


So there has been a lot of secrecy, in my family, so I have no longer
any bonds to them, so that's why I have to ask everyone else, about
all these stuff.

So
sorry about the inconvenience surrounding this!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

And when I get more money, I'll contact Rollag to Rollag back, and
order the book about the people who immigrated to America, from Rollag

in Numedalen.

Thanks very much for the help with this!


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Dennis Herbranson
<rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> Erik, do you have access to the Rollag Bygdeboker? I have found the information about your great grandmother, including a picture of her. If you do not, I can scan the information and send it to you.
>

> I looked in our Rollag book and there is nothing about the people you mentioned in our book, so they did not come to Rollag, Minnesota. They may have gone to Jefferson
Prairie, Wisconsin as that was another Numedal community in America at that time.
>
> --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan

> To: "Dennis Herbranson" <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:10 PM

>
> Hi,
> that's very brilliant!
> I got some of the names wrong, I thought Toeiet meant that they owned in two countries.
> I have some files from Rollag library, in Norway.
> I have them
on a blog I write on:
>
> http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/2010/01/na-ma-jeg-si-at-jeg-er-litt-stolt-her.html

> I currently live in Liverpool, UK, since I'm a refugee from Norway.
> (I overheard in 2003 and 2004, in Oslo, that I was followed by the 'mafian', which I guess could be the communists or muslims.

> Anyway, the police in Norway wont help, and I was a student then, after working as a shop manager, so I didn't have that much money, so I ended up in the UK).
> I'll attach a family-tree, so it's possible to see, that my fathers mother, Ågot Mogans family, were from Rollag in Numedal.

> (I'm also in the noble-lines Gjedde and Adeler, from Denmark and Norway, so that could be why I'm being followed as well I guess).
> So I appriciate any help, since I'm in this difficult
situation, so that's very fine!
> Thank's very much in advance for any help!
> Sincerely,
> Erik Ribsskog
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>
>> Thank you for your message, Erik. I will see what I can find. I have all the Rollag Bygdeboker and will see if there is any information there as well. May I ask where you currently live? Do you live in Norway?

>>
>> The price of the book is $45 US plus shipping. I think it costs about $25 US to ship a book to Norway. So the total price of the book shipped to Norway would be about $70 US.
>>
>> You asked about criminals in Rollag, Minnesota. No, there were no criminals. They were all poor farmers who
came to America to get more land and a better life for their families.
>>
>> Gullek shows up quite often in the Rollag, Norway records, especially back in the 1600s and 1700s. It is an old name, I believe. Gulleksrud would mean Gullek's clearing, so it had to be a small farm. And Toeiet would be a small husman's farm on Toen. So I will look there also.

>>
>> I will try to find out some information about your ancestors for you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan

>> To: rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:50 PM
>>

>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if you have any information, about my great-grandmother Bergit, (or Birgit), Tovsdotter Mogan, who went to the USA, as a foster-child, her uncle, Gullek Gulleksson Toeiet (Gulleksrud), and his wife, Åse Levorsdotter.

>> They went to America, around 1885, from Rollag, in Norway, probably to Rollag, Minnesota, I'd say.
>> I went to the USA myself, in 2005, after I'd overheard that I was followed, by the 'mafian', (I don't really know who they are. I was a shop-manager in Oslo).

>> Then I went to Detroit, in 2005, but was sent right back to Europe, without
doing anything wrong.
>> So maybe my family are in this 'mafian' and told the USA immigrant-police lies, when they called my family in Norway?
>> I try to dig up things about my family, and has found out that my great-grandmother, on my fathers side, was brought up in the USA, before returning to Norway, something my family in Norway has never told me.

>> So it's like they've tried to cover up stuff for me.
>> I think they probably are like the criminals in the movie 'Fargo'.
>> Where there many criminals among the Norwegians moving to Rollag, Minnesota?

>> My great-grandmothers parents where her mother Jøran Gulleksdotter Gulleksrud, and her husband, Tov Pedersen Toeiet (Mogan).
>> 'Toeiet' means two-own, that is, owns to places.
>> So it could be that it means that they own both in the USA and in Norway.

>> Gulleksrud is a placename, in Rollag, Norway, I think it must
be.
>> And Gulleksdotter, means 'daughter of Gullek'.
>> So she had the same father, as the foster-father, who was her brother, Gullek Gulleksson (Toeiet) Gulleksrud.
>> Gullek is a name, that's not that common, in Norway, I think.

>> 'Gull' in Norwegian, means 'gold'.
>> I hope you have the chance to answer me about this!
>> Thanks in advance for any help!
>> How do I order the Rollag to Rollag-book?

>> If you don't know this, then I maybe I should read about this in your book.
>> But thanks in advance if you know anything about this!
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Erik Ribsskog










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