Mer om PHSO-klage

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

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PHSO-complaint/Fwd: Complaint about ICO/Fwd: Protect - Response from the Information Commissioner's Office[Ref. RCC0494312]

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Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>




Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:36 AM

To:
"CARNEY, Rob" <rob.carney@parliament.uk>

Cc:
steve.rotheram.mp@parliament.uk

Bcc:
Phso Enquiries <phso.enquiries@ombudsman.org.uk>

Hi,

ok, it said on the leaflet from the Ombudsman that I could send about the complaint, to 'a' MP.

So I thought that meant _any_ MP.

My local MP is the guy who have a small 'MP-building' in Rice Lane, I guess, that is

I thought it would be best to sendt to the MP I've sent about government-complaints to before, since I thought the Ombudsman-leaflet meant I could send to any MP.

(My address is:

10 Keith Courth

Keith Avenue
Liverpool
L4 5XJ

By the way).

Thanks for the reply!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

It looks like Steve Rotherham is my local MP, from this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Walton_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

So I send a copy e-mail to that MP as well.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM, CARNEY, Rob <rob.carney@parliament.uk> wrote:

Dear Mr Ribsskog

Thank you for your email to Louise. I reply on her behalf.

Please could you confirm your new address and I can  confirm who your MP is now.

Regards

Rob Carney

Senior Caseworker to Louise Ellman MP

Member of Parliament for Liverpool Riverside & Chair, Commons Transport Select Ctte


rob.carney@parliament.uk

0151 236 2969

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 13 July 2013 22:25
To: ELLMAN, Louise
Cc: Phso Enquiries
Subject: PHSO-complaint/Fwd: Complaint about ICO/Fwd: Protect - Response from the Information Commissioner's Office[Ref. RCC0494312]

Hi,

I was in contact with you, a couple of years ago, regarding a tax complaint-case.

(When I lived in Leather Lane, in the City Centre).

The PHSO tells me to contact an MP, regarding my complaint-case, from May, regarding problems when I bought an internet-line, from Virgin.

(I now live in Walton.

But it doesn't say in the leaflet from PHSO that it has to be my local MP.

So I thought I could send to you, since I've sent another case to you earlier).

This is about that the PHSO says I have to send my complaint to them through an MP.

Hope this is alright!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

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From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Subject: Complaint about ICO/Fwd: Protect - Response from the Information Commissioner's Office[Ref. RCC0494312]
To: Phso Enquiries <phso.enquiries@ombudsman.org.uk>


Hi,

I send about this to you.

The ICO ignores that I've asked them for the e-mail addresses for Virgin and Ofcom.

But ICO don't want to give me this information.

They also don't understand that if Virgin-staff wants to look at your PC.

Then PC means personal computer, and that it has personal information on it.

They want me to prove that the five Virigin-staff that was here, on three different days, in two different weeks, were 'processing' private information about me.

But I can't know what went on, in the Virgin-guys' heads.

But it's clear that by using peoples PC's, they could get access to personal information.

And by going to my flat without an appointment, then they could also get access to personal information, about me, since I then didn't get the time, to prepare my flat, for a visit/'inspection', (or why they went here this many times), by Virgin.

I really wanted to complain to Ofcom, but they didn't have their general enquiery e-mail address, on their website, (only a webform), so I ended up writing to ICO.

Since I don't like webforms that much, because sometimes they don't send back a copy e-mail to the person who uses the form.

Maybe you are more clear at Phso than I think ICO are.

Regarding this case.

Engineers are often very good with computers.

And Virgin had three guys here, (first two), at the same time.

So I was also distracted.

(Because the other guy wanted to use my toilet, and spoke to me a lot).

So I can't know what the engineer did, on my computer, really.

He also pretended he was like Charlie Chaplin, and fell of my chair and broke my printer.

And he drilled an extra hole in the wall.

I think the ICO are unreasonable when they expect me to have noticed everything the engineer did, on my PC, (with the other Virgin-guy also distracting me a bit).

Regards,

Erik Ribsskog

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From: <casework@ico.org.uk>
Date: Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Subject: Protect - Response from the Information Commissioner's Office[Ref. RCC0494312]
To: eribsskog@gmail.com

PROTECT - PERSONAL

 

02 May 2013

Case Review Reference Number RCC0494312
Case Reference Number ENQ0493394

Dear Mr Ribsskog

I write in response to your service complaint and case review of 18 April 2013, which was acknowledged on 18 April 2013.

The Information Commissioner’s duties

Under the Data Protection Act 1998 (DPA), the Information Commissioner has a general duty to give advice about the requirements of the DPA and, under certain circumstances, to investigate DPA related complaints.

It may be helpful for me to first explain the role and scope of the Information Commissioners Office (the ICO) and also explain a little about the legislation that we deal with.

The Information Commissioner is a UK independent supervisory authority reporting directly to the UK Parliament. The Commissioner enforces and oversees the Data Protection Act 1998 and the Freedom of Information Act 2000 within the United Kingdom.

Our case review and service complaints policy

However, where an individual is not satisfied with the way we have handled their DPA related enquiry or complaint, they can ask us to review it, at a more senior level, in accordance with our case review and service complaints policy.


Background

I understand that you contacted this office by email on 04 April 2013 and expressed concern about being unable to find an email address for Ofcom or Virgin Media.  Additionally, you also explained that  Virgin Media staff had visited your flat without a letter
being sent to you confirming an appointment, and that you wanted to complain about this.  You expressed concern that the Virgin Media employees ‘might be breaching your data protection’, and go on to say “this is harassment, I think”.

Our Findings

On 05 April 2013, a response was sent to your enquiry by Ms Holmes, a case officer in the Advice Services Team.  Ms Holmes explained that the matters you had raised do not fall within the remit of the Information Commissioner’s Office.  Issues relating to the
customer service you have received from Virgin Media should be raised with the organisation directly and to assist you, Ms Holmes provided you with a link to the contact page for Virgin Media as well as a link to the Ofcom web page.

On 05 April 2013, I understand that you replied to Ms Holmes and expressed concern that both organisations do not have a general enquiry email address.  As Ms Holmes had already explained to you, if this is a matter of concern to you, you would need to write
to the organisation/s concerned directly.

You go on to ask:

“And isn’t it a breach on my Data Protection, when a Virgin-guy wants to go in to my flat, without an appointment?”

As Ms Holmes explained in her email to you of 11 April 2013, a Virgin employee entering your flat without an appointment is not an issue which would be covered by the Data Protection Act and you would be best placed to raise your concerns with Virgin Media
directly.

In your response to Ms Holmes of 11 April 2013, you explained that whilst in your flat, Virgin engineers “could get personal information about me”, and “also looked at my PC”.  However, you do not appear to have provided any evidence to show that these individuals
obtained any personal information about you, or that you have raised your concerns in writing with Virgin Media.

You close by asking Ms Holmes to escalate your enquiry to her line manager for a second opinion and ask:

“Wouldn’t it be part of your job to provide me with information like that?”, which I understand relates to the provision of Virgin Media’s general enquiry email address.


Ms Holmes responded to you at length on 18 April 2013.  It is clear from her response that Ms Holmes once again addressed all of your concerns fully and explained that if the Virgin Media engineer did process files on your computer which contained your personal
data, and you did not receive any fair processing information, you should, in the first instance write to Virgin Media directly and outline your concerns.  Ms Holmes explained the complaints process and when and how you could raise a complaint with the Information
Commissioner’s Office.  Ms Holmes reiterated that it is not within the remit of this office to provide you with specific contact information for Virgin Media or Ofcom, although she did provide you with the links to the contact pages of their websites once
more in order to assist you.

Conclusion  

I have reviewed the correspondence on this case in detail and I am satisfied that Ms Holmes answered your enquiry in full and in a satisfactory manner.  In conclusion, I do not uphold your complaint as I consider the Information Commissioner’s Office has fulfilled
its obligations to you by providing you with clear and detailed responses to your email correspondence and has provided you with additional information about how to contact Virgin Media, which in itself is over and above what the organisation is required to
do.

Therefore, please take this letter as our final response in relation to this matter.


We aim to give the best possible service to all of our customers in all of the services we provide.  I am therefore sorry if you feel that we have fallen short of what you expected.


Taking your complaint further

If you believe we have provided you with a poor service, or if you believe we have not treated you properly or fairly then you may be able to complain to:

The Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman, Millbank Tower, Millbank, London SW1P 4QP

All complaints to the Ombudsman must be made through an MP.  I would advise you to first call the Ombudsman’s Helpline on
0345 015 4033 to see if they are able to assist you further.

If, however, your complaint relates to the way in which we have interpreted the law then the Ombudsman cannot help you.  If you want to challenge our interpretation of the law, you should consider seeking legal advice.

Yours sincerely
Ms Jenny Manock
Advice Services Manager
First Contact Group
Direct dial number – 01625 545788

     

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