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fredag 13. juni 2008

E-mail to the LGO, 13/6/08.

Google Mail - complaint against Liverpool City Council our ref 08 000 279

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

complaint against Liverpool City Council our ref 08 000 279

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:18 AM

To:
st3york@lgo.org.uk

Hi,

I can't see that I have recieved an answer to this e-mail yet, so that's why I'm sending it again.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: May 21, 2008 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: complaint against Liverpool City Council our ref 08 000 279
To: st3 york <st3york@lgo.org.uk>

Hi,

I'm refering to our phone-call, on Monday, where I explained that I would have a closer look at the compaint, and

call you back the next day. (Tuesday, yesterday).

Unfortunaltly, I was a bit busy yesterday, but I have thought a bit more about this now, so I'm sending you this

e-mail.

Like I explained in the phone-call, my main complaint, against the gym, was that the (female) washing-staff,

where washing the mens chaning-room, within the opening hours, on several (at least two) occations.

I also explained, that I had been working-out in other council/university-run gyms, in Oslo and Sunderland,

but that I hadn't seen this before, that the female washing-staff was washing the mens changing room,

within the opening hours.

I've been thinking a bit more about how to explain this, and I think one must probably say, that this, that

the washing-women wash the mens changing-room within the opening hours of the gym, must be said

to be indicent(?)

And this gym is not like a private gym, but it's a council run gym, open to all members of the public, and

run by the tax-payers money.

The council, explained that they had changed the 'washing-regime', after recieving my complaint, but after

I've been thinking more about this, I think it's a bit strange anyway.

Since, I think that the staff at the gym should have stopped the washing-women, acting like this, I remember

that there was plenty of staff there, the last time this happend, they were just standing in the reception-area,

without doing any work-tasks, maybe 10 or 15 minutes before the gym closed, looking at me, more or less,

smiling, when I left the gym, the last time this happend.

So, I think that staff must have been aware of this.

So, I think that there must have been something going on at the gym, since the staff didn't react, when the

washing women did this.

So I don't think it's enough by the Council, to say they've changed the washing regime, since I think there

must be problems with the staff as well, since they didn't reflect or react at this procedure.

I think both the washing-staff, and the gym-staff and management, should have understood, by themselves,

that it's maybe a bit indecent, to let the washing-women wash the mens changing-room during the opening

hours of the gym, while the changing-room is being used.

So I think that there must be something going on there, since noone reflected on this.

So, I think that maybe the situation at the gym, should be looked a more into, by the Ombudsman, since

I think that there must have been something strange going on there.

I haven't had the time to look at the complaint that much, and this was from last year, so I don't remember

the details that well, but I remember that I was thinking, that there were a lot of strange things going on at

the gym.

So I'm forwarding you the complaint I sent the gym, so maybe you could have a look at this, and see what

you think yourselves, of the other complaints than the main complaint mentioned in this e-mail, if you don't

think the things going on at the gym, weren't a bit strange.

So then I'll trust your judgement on the other complaints, since I am a bit after shedule with work etc. here.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On 5/14/08, st3 york <st3york@lgo.org.uk> wrote:

Dear Mr Ribskkog

I refer to your complaint against Liverpool City Council. I tried calling you today and last Wednesday but have been unsuccessful. I would like to have a chat with you about your complaint. Please would you telephone me today or on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday next week (19-21 May) sometime between 9.15am and 4.30pm so that I can make progress on your complaint. If I am not available when you call, please leave a message giving details of the best time to get back to you.

Yours sincerely

Julie Murray

Investigator

Commission for Local Administration in England

Tel: 01904 380220

Website: www.lgo.org.uk

NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you have received this message in error please advise us at once and do not make any use of the information.

E-mail to the Legal Services Commission, 13/6/08.

Google Mail - Update/Fwd: To Mrs. Wilton, Corporate Services Manager, Complaint.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Update/Fwd: To Mrs. Wilton, Corporate Services Manager, Complaint.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:13 AM

To:
Fiona Dillon <Fiona.Dillon@legalservices.gov.uk>

Hi,

I can't see that I've heard anything more from you, regarding this, so I was just wondering

if it would be possible, to please get an update, regarding what's going on, surrounding this.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On 2/26/08, Fiona Dillon <Fiona.Dillon@legalservices.gov.uk> wrote:

Mr Ribsskog,

I have contacted both firms in order for them to give an explanation
of themselves and will cony=tact you as soon as I receive a reply.

Yours sincerely,

Fiona Dillon.

Mrs Fiona Dillon
CDS Administrator
Legal Services Commission

0151-242-5268 or ext 5268
0151-242-5396 Fax

>>> "Erik Ribsskog" <eribsskog@gmail.com> 22/02/2008 15:51 >>>

Hi,

I'm refering to my earlier e-mail today, and I'm also sending you this
update, an e-mail I sent the
LGO today, that describes more, about the complaint-process, regarding
the
complaints on

Morecrofts and EAD, that I sent you today, and how these complaints
were
dealt with by
the Law Society, and the LGO.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 22, 2008 3:43 PM
Subject: To Mrs. Wilton, Corporate Services Manager, Complaint.
To: lso@olso.gsi.gov.uk

Cc: general.queries@justice.gsi.gov.uk

Hi,

I called the LGO today, on 0161 839 7262, and I got confirmed, like
Mr.
Gavin
Brown, Operations Manager, is explaining in the letter from 14/2, that

the
LGO, haven't got an appeal-possibility, included in the
complaint-process.

So I've decided that I'm going to follow the Operations Managers
advice, and
contact the Ministry of Justice, regarding the problems that I

orginially
wanted to appeal about.

This is going to take me a bit of time, since I need to go through the
details
of both comlaints. (Ref. 39651 and ref. 40080), and I'm in a busy
periode at
work, so this is propably going to take me at least a couple of weeks.

Anyway, from what I'm suspecting, when I'm using my judgement,
regarding
how many problems I think it was with the Law Society, regarding the
complaints on the Morecrofts and EAD law-firms.

Due to that I think these problems, with the Law Society were many and

serious,
and due to that I can't see the seriousnes of the problems being
mirrored at
all,
in the LGO reports, due to this, I decieded to call your offices today,
to
check
if it really is so, that you haven't got a possibility to appeal

included
in your
complaint-process.

Since I found out, that there is no such possibility to appeal, then I
asked
your
representative, who answered the phone, if one have the possibilty to
complain

about the LGO representatives.

Since I suspect, that there could be maybe some form of corruption
involved,
and that this is the reason, that I couldn't see that the Law Society
problems
where mirrored in the LGO reports.

If it so, that there is some type of corruption, that is causing this,
that
I can't
see the problems mirrored in the reports, then I think this is serious,
and
that
it should contact the person at LGO responsible for handling

complaints
about LGO representatives, regarding this.

So this is why I'm sending this e-mail, so that you get the chance to
have
a look at this, and get a chance to sort the problems that I suspect

could
exist in some form, causing this, the to me obvious misproportions
between how I think the Law Society acted, and how the Law Society are
being described in your report.

So I hope very much that you have the chance to have a look at this!

Please just tell me if there is anything more I should inform about!

I'm also sending a copy of this e-mail, to the Ministry of Justice,
since
I'm going
to contact them later, regarding these problems, so I thought it would

be
right
to be informing them about the problems, as early as possible.

Hope this is alright, and that you have a chance to have a look at
this!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

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E-mail to the Legal Services Commision, 13/6/08.

Google Mail - Update/Fwd: To Mrs. Wilton, Corporate Services Manager, Complaint.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Update/Fwd: To Mrs. Wilton, Corporate Services Manager, Complaint.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:13 AM

To:
Fiona Dillon <Fiona.Dillon@legalservices.gov.uk>

Hi,

I can't see that I've heard anything more from you, regarding this, so I was just wondering

if it would be possible, to please get an update, regarding what's going on, surrounding this.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On 2/26/08, Fiona Dillon <Fiona.Dillon@legalservices.gov.uk> wrote:

Mr Ribsskog,

I have contacted both firms in order for them to give an explanation
of themselves and will cony=tact you as soon as I receive a reply.

Yours sincerely,

Fiona Dillon.

Mrs Fiona Dillon
CDS Administrator
Legal Services Commission

0151-242-5268 or ext 5268
0151-242-5396 Fax

>>> "Erik Ribsskog" <eribsskog@gmail.com> 22/02/2008 15:51 >>>

Hi,

I'm refering to my earlier e-mail today, and I'm also sending you this
update, an e-mail I sent the
LGO today, that describes more, about the complaint-process, regarding
the
complaints on

Morecrofts and EAD, that I sent you today, and how these complaints
were
dealt with by
the Law Society, and the LGO.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 22, 2008 3:43 PM
Subject: To Mrs. Wilton, Corporate Services Manager, Complaint.
To: lso@olso.gsi.gov.uk

Cc: general.queries@justice.gsi.gov.uk

Hi,

I called the LGO today, on 0161 839 7262, and I got confirmed, like
Mr.
Gavin
Brown, Operations Manager, is explaining in the letter from 14/2, that

the
LGO, haven't got an appeal-possibility, included in the
complaint-process.

So I've decided that I'm going to follow the Operations Managers
advice, and
contact the Ministry of Justice, regarding the problems that I

orginially
wanted to appeal about.

This is going to take me a bit of time, since I need to go through the
details
of both comlaints. (Ref. 39651 and ref. 40080), and I'm in a busy
periode at
work, so this is propably going to take me at least a couple of weeks.

Anyway, from what I'm suspecting, when I'm using my judgement,
regarding
how many problems I think it was with the Law Society, regarding the
complaints on the Morecrofts and EAD law-firms.

Due to that I think these problems, with the Law Society were many and

serious,
and due to that I can't see the seriousnes of the problems being
mirrored at
all,
in the LGO reports, due to this, I decieded to call your offices today,
to
check
if it really is so, that you haven't got a possibility to appeal

included
in your
complaint-process.

Since I found out, that there is no such possibility to appeal, then I
asked
your
representative, who answered the phone, if one have the possibilty to
complain

about the LGO representatives.

Since I suspect, that there could be maybe some form of corruption
involved,
and that this is the reason, that I couldn't see that the Law Society
problems
where mirrored in the LGO reports.

If it so, that there is some type of corruption, that is causing this,
that
I can't
see the problems mirrored in the reports, then I think this is serious,
and
that
it should contact the person at LGO responsible for handling

complaints
about LGO representatives, regarding this.

So this is why I'm sending this e-mail, so that you get the chance to
have
a look at this, and get a chance to sort the problems that I suspect

could
exist in some form, causing this, the to me obvious misproportions
between how I think the Law Society acted, and how the Law Society are
being described in your report.

So I hope very much that you have the chance to have a look at this!

Please just tell me if there is anything more I should inform about!

I'm also sending a copy of this e-mail, to the Ministry of Justice,
since
I'm going
to contact them later, regarding these problems, so I thought it would

be
right
to be informing them about the problems, as early as possible.

Hope this is alright, and that you have a chance to have a look at
this!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

************************************************************************************

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E-post til Sivilombudsmannen, 13. juni 2008. (In Norwegian).

Google Mail - Til Sivilombudsmann Arne Fliflet. Ref. 2007/2263

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Til Sivilombudsmann Arne Fliflet. Ref. 2007/2263

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:04 AM

To:
"arkiv@sivilombudsmannen.no" <arkiv@sivilombudsmannen.no>

Hei,

beklager hvis jeg sender mange e-poster, men jeg lurte på om det var mulig å få en ny saksbehandler, hos dere,

siden jeg synes at han saksbehandleren jeg har nå, gjør seg litt vanskelig.

Jeg vet ikke hva årsaken til dette er, men jeg synes at det er greit å ha en saksbehandler som man er på talefot

med, hadde jeg nær sagt, så jeg håper dette er i orden.

Håper dette er i orden.

Med vennlig hilsen

Erik Ribsskog

E-mail to Amnesty EU, 13/6/08.

Google Mail - Fw: Enquiery

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fw: Enquiery

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com> Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:54 AM

To:
EUteam@amnesty.org

Hi,

I can't see that I've recieved an answer to this e-mail yet, so that's why I'm trying to send it again.

Hope this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 9, 2008 10:47 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Enquiery
To: "EUteam@amnesty.org" <EUteam@amnesty.org>

Hi,

thanks very much for your e-mail.

I've been contacting three different Amnesty-departments, that's the British Amnesty, Norwegian Amnesty, and you, who are the EU Amnesty, if I've

understood it right.

And I've also been in contact with the International Amnesty, if I'm not mistaking.

The problem, is that the Government, aren't telling me what's goving on, regarding some mafia stuff, that's going on, like I explain here:

Lack of openness from the Government.

I understand that there's something going on.

I overheard in Norway, on Rimi Bjørndal, in Desember 03, that I was followed by 'the mafia'.

I was chased from my uncles farm in Kvelde in Larvik in Norway, in July 05, by people with guns and dogs, and who I overheard wanted to kill me, og injure me. (The dogs could have been police-dogs by the way, I heard the people first and then the dogs).

I've had phoney water-meter inspectors in my flat, at the end of the last year, claiming to be from United Utilities, who wanted to look in the electricity-cabinet/cupboard, and which the complany told me that they hadn't sent, since I didn't have a water-meter in my flat, (since all UK flats haven't got one, and they're inspectors never look in the electricy-cabinet/cupboard). So it seems that this was something to do with inteligence etc.

And I've overheard in Liverpool this yead, that I've been used as a target-guy. By some Government then I presume.

And I overheard in Walton in 05, that I was in something called 'the game', or something, and I heard them say that I didn't know the rules. Which I don't, I have no idea what this is about.

And I understood that there was something strange going on Arvato, Liverpool, when I was working there in 05 and 06, with the STL Aidan Tippins acting strange, lying, acting threatening, and looking like he conspired with some other people working there, and much more also happened there.

So it's clear to me, that there is something going on.

Still, I don't really know what's going on.

If one search on the internet, one can't find any information about these episodes/issues.

And I've contacted the Norwegian Embassy in London, the Norwegian and the British Police, the media, and a lot of different other Government institutions/organisations, in both Norway and Britain.

I'm also reading a lot of online newspapers, I'm always answering my phone when it's ringing, and I'm reading all the letters I get with my mail.

And still I'm sitting here, being un-informed, and un-enlightend about what's going on.

So I suspect that the Government has got some kind of hidden agenda somewhere, that they don't want to be exposed, and that this is why they don't deal with this in openness.

So, the Government are keeping people, like me, in the dark, regarding some serious problems in society, that are goving on.

I've overheard that I'm being followed by some mafia, and that I've been used as target-guy, by the Government, and more.

Yet, the Police, refuse to tell me, what's going on.

And how can people be expected to live their lifes, when they know that one are being followed by some mafia, like I've overheard, and then the Police refuse,

to tell what's going on.

Then one can't have a normal life, because one can't know what's smart to do, since one don't know what's going on.

In a democracy, people have the right to know what's going on.

And, to decide, over ones lifes, one need to know what's going on, to make the right decisions.

If one don't know get to know what's going on in society, then one don't really decide over ones own life, and there isn't really a democracy.

And this I think is like torture, that I know that something is going on, surrounding things like this, yet I don't get to know what's going on.

And the Government, seems to be monitoring me, and trying to stop me getting help regarding the problems that are going on, so they

have no respect for peoples rights.

And I have complained about this, to different Ombudsmen etc., in Norway and Britain, but these seems to be involved, in the covering-up.

And I've also complained to the IPCC in Britain, and the similar autorothy in Norway, and also the Ministry of Justice, in both Britain and

Norway, but they are just covering up as well, it seems, at least till this date.

So, I was wondering who one should contact, when one are being bullied, and tortured, I think one have to say, by the Government, and

all the Government autoroties, seems to cooperate, in this bullying and torture.

So I hope you have the chance to answer me about this!

Thanks in advance for the help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On 1/10/08, EUteam@amnesty.org <EUteam@amnesty.org> wrote:

Dear Mr Ribsskog

I apologise, once again, for the delay in responding to your email.

I am not sure that Amnesty International can be of any assistance to you in respect of your case. Amnesty International's work is determined by the framework established by Amnesty International members at a global level and all individual cases that we work on must fall with the terms established by the organization's statute. This does not mean that we consider certain types of human rights, or human rights abuses, more important than others but rather that we must channel our resources to be as effective as possible. The UK team of Amnesty International is not currently working on allegations of abuse at the hands of the police. As you are in the UK, the Norwegian section of Amnesty International would not have been able to assist you either.

From what you explain in your email, you might be better placed addressing your concerns to the police. If you are dissatisfied with the manner in which your concern is being addressed by the police, you should enquire as to making a complaint.

I am sorry not to be of more help.

Yours sincerely

Alice Atkinson

EU team
Amnesty International
1 Easton Street
London WCIX ODW
United Kingdom

EUteam@amnesty.org

"Erik Ribsskog" <eribsskog@gmail.com>
22/12/2007 21:52

To

"EUteam@amnesty.org" <EUteam@amnesty.org>

cc

Subject

Re: Fw: Enquiery
Hi,

thanks you very much for your answer.

My problem is that I'm beign terrorrised eighter by the police, or some criminal network etc., each time I go out the door.

I've also been follwed by some mafia in Norway.

And also, I think something has happened to friends from my previous job in Liverpool, and I'm sure that the police know about this.

The problem is that the police wont give me any information or advice, on how to deal with these problems.

Neigheter the British or Norwegian Police are telling me whats going on etc.

And this is driving me insane.

And I think it is my right to get to know whats going on surrounding this.

But they won't tell me anything, about whats going on or how one should deal with this etc.

So I think this is my right, to get informartion and advice.

And I also suspect that the Police are telling people, like my bank, not give me a loan etc., and not to help me with some legal
cases etc. I'm dealing with.

So this is also a violation against my rights.

And also I wanted to report about harassment from the Norwegian department of Amnesty.

Hope that this is alright, I think it's serious since I'm going a bit insane here, and the police wont give me advice or information.

Hope that this is alright!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On 12/21/07, EUteam@amnesty.org <EUteam@amnesty.org> wrote:

Dear Mr Ribsskog

I apologise for the delay in responding to your email.

I am not sure I understand from your email if you contacted Amnesty International's offices in the UK and Norway - is that the case? Have you contacted the police about the concerns that you say you have?

I do not think that Amnesty International is able to answer your question and that you may be better placed addressing your concerns to the police. If I have misunderstood you, please let me know.

Yours sincerely

Alice Atkinson

EU team

Amnesty International
1 Easton Street
London WCIX ODW
United Kingdom

EUteam@amnesty.org

"Erik Ribsskog" <eribsskog@gmail.com>
11/12/2007 18:30

To

amnestyis@amnesty.org

cc

Subject

Fwd: Enquiery

Hi,

I can't see that I have recieved an answer to this e-mail yet, that's why I'm sending it again.

Hope that this is ok!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog < eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Nov 30, 2007 9:46 AM
Subject: Enquiery
To: amnestyis@amnesty.org

Hi,

I'm a Norwegian Citizen living in the UK.

I've been in contact with your Norwegian department, and also your British department.

I was wondering about two things.

I was told by your British Department, that the International Department, might be able to

help me with some problems regarding not getting help from the Norwegian and British
Governments, while being followed by criminal networks, in a case thats also seems to
be linked with trafficing of Scandinavian women to Liverpool and Spain, and illigal

management methods and serious organised harassment and more, I'd call it that
people were being used more or less like slaves.

(And I have dokumentation to support all of this).

That was the first thing I was wondering about, who should I contact, if I was wondering

if you maybe had the oppertunity to have a look at this?

Secondly, it seems a bit to me, that I maybe was harassed, when I was in contact with
your Norwegian department, who weren't able to give me any help or advice, but who

I think it might seem like were harassing me in their reply.

And also, they seemed to have misunderstood the meaning of the e-mail I was sending them.

Which I think was maybe a bit strange, since it seems reasonable to me, to presume that

they work with human rights issues, on a daily basis.

So that for them to not understand an e-mail, which I myself thought should be straight
forward for representatives working with human rights issues, on a daily basis, to

understand.

So I was wondering, regarding this problem, because I think matters like this should be
dealt with responsably.

And I've heard many good things about your organisation, and I thought your British/UK

department, also gave me good advice, so I don't mean to complain, but I'm a bit
worried about the quality of the advice from the mentioned department in Oslo.

And also, they didn't reply to my next e-mail, when I tryed to explain again, in case

they had maybe misunderstood what I meant.

So I thought this was a bit curious.

So I was wondering, who I should contact, if I wanted to make a complaint about my
contact with the deparment in Oslo.

I'll send more documents, to explain more about the issues I'm mentioning in this
e-mail, as soon as possible, when I know more about who it is I should contact
regarding these issues.

And please just contact me, if there is some I have forgotten to explain about regarding

these questions.

I hope that this is alright!

And thank you very much for your help in advance!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

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Purring på manglende svar, sendt Thor Gjermund Eriksen, Konserndirektør i A-Pressen, 13. juni 2008. (In Norwegian).

Google Mail - Klage på Nettavisen.

Erik Ribsskog
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Klage på Nettavisen.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:47 AM

To:
thor.gjermund.eriksen@apressen.no

Hei,

jeg kan ikke se at jeg har mottatt en svar på denne e-posten ennå, så derfor prøver jeg å sende den igjen.

Håper dette er i orden!

Med vennlig hilsen

Erik Ribsskog

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 10, 2008 3:23 PM

Subject: Re: Klage på Nettavisen.
To: Eriksen Thor Gjermund <thor.gjermund.eriksen@apressen.no>

Hei,

altså, at Stavrum ikke svarer på e-post eller telefonsvarer-meldinger/beskjeder, er vel ikke noe redaksjonell

vurdering akkurat, i min bok.

Så det er derfor jeg prøver å finne ut hvem som er hans direkte overordnede.

Man må vel holde det man sier, selv om man er høyt oppe på redaktørnivå, skulle man tro, han representerer

vel Nettavisen da, i så henseende.

Så, jeg prøver vel egentlig å finne ut hvem hans direkte overordnede er, selv om jeg ikke skal påstå at jeg

har klart dette foreløbig.

Men jeg skjønner at det ikke er deg som styreleder i A-Pressen.

Det er vel administrerende direktør i A-Pressen som Stavrum rapporterer til da, eller har jeg misforstått?

På forhånd takk for svar!

Med vennlig hilsen

Erik Ribsskog

On 6/10/08, Eriksen Thor Gjermund <thor.gjermund.eriksen@apressen.no> wrote:

Erik Ribsskog,

Jeg har lest ditt brev.

Som styreleder, er det ikke riktig av meg å blande meg inn i slike redaksjonelle vurderinger. Så jeg har igjen sendt over brevet til sjefredaktør Gunnar Stavrum.

Vennlig hilsen

Thor Gjermund Eriksen

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tlf: +47 22 00 90 00

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e-post: tge@apressen.no

Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sendt: 10. juni 2008 15:27
Til: Eriksen Thor Gjermund
Emne: Klage på Nettavisen.

Hei,

jeg har hatt noe problemer med trakassering fra moderatorer på Veggavisen mm., som jeg har tatt

opp med Gunnar Stavrum, i Nettavisen, i november i fjor.

Stavrum sa han skulle kikke på det, men trengte litt tid.

Men nå har det jo gått over et halvt år, og jeg har fortsatt ikke hørt noe.

Og dette, med manglende svar, siden november, var også grunnen til at jeg i februar, sendte et

brev om dette, til TV2, etter å ha ringt TV2 i desember og januar, for å prøve å høre hvorfor

jeg ikke fikk noe særlig svar, uten å klare å få tak i Stavrum.

Så da sendte jeg et brev i februar, til TV2 i Bergen.

Så ringer jeg TV2 nå i dag da, og da får jeg beskjed, om at det ikke var TV2, som Stavrum

rapporterer til, slik som jeg trodde, siden det jo vel het TV2 Nettavisen osv., i hvertfall tidligere.

Så jeg fikk opplyst, da jeg ringte i dag, på 02255, at klage på Nettavisen, det skulle sendes

a-pressen, på denne e-post adressen.

Så det er derfor jeg sender denne e-posten nå.

Jeg legger også ved en kopi av det nevnte brevet, og jeg har også noen kopier av vedleggene her,

som jeg godt også kan ettersende, dersom det trengs.

Håper dette er i orden, og på forhånd takk for hjelp!

Med vennlig hilsen

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Her følger kopi av det nevnte brevet, fra februar:

Erik Ribsskog

Flat 3

5 Leather Lane

Liverpool 5. februar 2008

L2 2AE

Storbritannia

TV 2 AS

Postboks 7222

N-5020 Bergen

Norway

KLAGE NETTAVISEN

Jeg har hatt noe problemer med diskusjonsforumet Veggavisen, og med korrespondansen med

Gunnar Stavrum, Nettavisen, så jeg ville gjerne klage på dette.

Problemene er som følger:

1. En tråd jeg startet om det fantes en mulig forbindelse mellom venstesiden i norsk politikk og

kriminelle nettverk, ble flyttet til kjendis-forumet, kun fordi den hadde en artig tittel, og at noe

av innholdet i posten gikk på folk som også var kjente.

Det var snakk om tråden 'Eli Hagens frisør - Spøkefugl eller faglig dyktig?'.

http://forum.tv2.no/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=130&threadid=38368&forumid=1

Jeg innrømer at det var en litt morsom overskrift, men det egentlige tema for tråden, en eventuell

forbindelse mellom politiske partier og kriminelle nettverk, og om en slik mafia, 'tuller' med

ekteparet Hagen, er jo alvorlig nok.

Så at man skal flytte en tråd, pga. overfladiske ting, som overskrift, og se mindre på ting som

inneholdet i tråden, det synes jeg ikke virker så veldig seriøst eller overveiet.

Enda jeg forsøkte å ta det opp i e-poster, men det var ikke mulig å få noe forståelse for at jeg

synes at innholdet av posten/temaet for tråden,

Tittel på tema: Eli Hagens frisør - Spøkefugl eller faglig dyktig?

Tema-Sammendrag: Er det noen som tuller med Carl og Eli Hagen?

Altså, temaet var om det er en mafia eller et kriminelt nettverk, som tuller med/lager problemer

for Carl og Eli Hagen.

Og Veggavisen synes at dette, var et tema som tilhørte kongelig og kjendis delen av forumet.

Jeg synes dette var uforståelig, og mistenker at Veggavisen kan ha hatt en agenda her, å plassere

tråden på et sted hvor færre folk ville lese den, eller en lignende årsak.

Eller om det bare var en feil de gjorde, men jeg klagde jo, og de ga seg ikke.

Og når man modererer debatt-forum, så burde man vel ha et minimum av ferdigheter innefor

moderering, så jeg synes det kanskje sviktet litt for Veggavisen her.

Eller, det heter jo ikke moderator, men administrator, hos Veggavisen, så det er mulig arbeids-

oppgaven ikke er å moderere forumet, men å administrere det.

Så jeg vet ikke om det er noen forskjell da, når det heter administrator, og ikke moderator?

2. Jeg hadde store problemer med at jeg ble utsatt for personangrep, da jeg debatterte på

Veggavisen.

Jeg sendte administrator 37 e-poster, med eksempler på personangrep/trakassering.

Enkelte av debattantene, hadde såkalte 'avatarer', hvor det stod bl.a. 'new world order', som

henspeiler på Illuminati-organisasjonen osv.

Og det virket også for meg som om denne trakasseringen var veldig organisert.

Jeg mistenker da, at det kan ha vært fra en organisasjon med Illuminati-tilknytning da, ettersom

en av de ivrigste 'trakassererne', hadde en spesiallaget 'avatar', med teksten 'new world order',

som jo er målet til Illuminati, en ny verdensordning.

Jeg sender ikke alle de 37 e-postene nå, men jeg har sendt de til Gunnar Stavrum, og han hatt

de i to måneders tid nå, men bare kontakt meg tilbake, med en e-postadresse de kan sendes

til, så skal jeg ordne det så fort som mulig!

3. Veggavisen anså ikke en eneste av de 37 e-postene som trakasserende.

Jeg har drevet litt med en arbeidssak, hvor et av temaene er nettopp trakassering, og har lært

definisjonen på hva trakassering er.

Og jeg merket jo ikke minst på meg selv også, at jeg ble faktisk mobbet og trakassert, av

både debattanter og administratorer på Veggavisen.

Så jeg betviler litt kunnskapene, eller opplæringen som administratorene får.

Jeg tror de kanskje burde ha lært mer om hva trakassering egentlig er, ettersom jeg mener

å vite at trakassering er forbudt i følge lover og regler, i allefall vet jeg at trakassering er

forbudt ifølge britisk lov.

Men det virket ikke for meg som om administratorene på veggavisen begrep hva 'trakassering'

betyr, enten det, eller så lot de som om de ikke forstod det.

Sannsynligvis kanskje det siste.

Jeg hadde problemer med passordet en dag, mens jeg drev å skrev poster på veggavisen,

og da byttet jeg brukernavn en dag.

Så jeg har brukt brukernavnet 'cons', for det meste, også i tillegg brukernavnet 'johncons', en

dag eller to vel.

Jeg kikket såvidt i den Carl og Eli Hagen tråden, og da fant jeg et eksempel på hva jeg mener:

'Rebo
Vikar
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Innlegg: 82
Ble medlem: 12/10/2007

Hvorfor har du 2 nicks cons/johncons? Spaltet personlighet?'.

Slike eksempler var det hele tiden, ofte mye værre en denne her.

Det gikk på person hele tiden, og administratorene var også med på trakasseringen, virket det

klart som for meg.

Det er egentlig vanskelig å ta med alle eksemplene, ettersom problemet var såpass omfattende,

men hvis man kikker på postene, skrevet av brukernavn 'cons', så burde det dukke opp mange

eksempler på trakassering/personangrep, som virket organisert for meg.

Nå er mange av postene/trådene jeg skrev slettet, av for meg vage/merkelige årsaker, så alle

eksempler på trakassering, er det nok vanskelig å finne nå, men jeg kan eventuelt ta det senere,

når jeg får bedre tid, og kanskje hjelp fra advokat etterhvert, da kan jeg prøve å få gått igjennom

dette grundig, for det er nok snakk om lovbrudd her, vil jeg nok tro, så jeg skal se om jeg får

noe hjelp gjennom fri rettshjelp systemet for eksempel, fordi det som skjedde når jeg postet

på Veggavisen, det har jeg aldri sett noe lignende av, og det håper jeg at jeg er heldig, og

slipper å se igjen.

Så jeg håper TV2 er sitt ansvar, som en forhåpentligvis ansvarlig aktør i samfunnet, bevist, og

gjør noe med dette.

4. De sletter tråder på forumet, uten noen ordentlig grunn, annet enn at de ikke liker inneholdet i trådenen.

Dette gjelder to tråder jeg har startet om norske politikere.

En tråd om Stoltenberg, og en tråd om Giske.

De har også låst et par tråder uten å noen ordentlige grunner.

'Norge er ikke som du tror'.

'Potetsalat/Italiensk salat/Rekesalat', (er kanskje litt dumt navn, men det var tross alt på 'dill&dall'-forumet).

Men men.

Og jeg har også sett at en tråd som andre startet, som heter noe sånt som 'Nordmenn drept av utlendinger

siste 18 år', har blitt stanset fordi de ikke likte trådens tema.

Altså fordi tråden ikke var politisk korrekt nok.

Og ikke pga. noen ordentlig grunn.

5. Admin også skriver trakasserende, jeg skal sende med noen e-poster fra Admin.

De skriver blant annet i den siste e-posten:

'Hvordan du mener vi modererer forumet, får stå for din egen regning. Du skriver at du har blitt utestengt fra blant annet VG, BCC

og en del andre forum. Kanskje du bør innse at verden ikke er ute etter deg, men omvendt?'.

Altså, de skriver at det er meg det er noe galt med.

Ettersom jeg har hatt problemer med VGD osv.

Men de kjenner jo ikke til hva de problemene går ut på i detalj.

Er det noe automatikk i, at hvis man har problemer med VGD osv., så er det noe galt med en, og at man bør innse 'at verden ikke

er ute etter deg, men omvendt?'.

Jeg mener det er trakasserende, fordi de sier at moderatorene på VGD osv. ikke kan ta feil.

Men at jeg er ute etter verden.

Det er trakasserende ovenfor meg.

Det er etter den definisjonen jeg har lært om trakassering, at det er kommentarer som er uønskede og nedlatende.

Og dette er i høyeste grad både uønsket og nedlatende kommentarer.

6. Jeg sendte en klage, på de ovennevnte punktene (selv om klagen er litt mer spesifisert nå), til Gunnar Stavrum, Nettavisen,

8. november i fjor.

Jeg fikk en e-post tilbake fra Stavrum, samme dag, hvor han skriver at han trenger litt tid på å se gjennom klagen, og sende

et svar tilbake.

Jeg fikk ikke noe svar, så 14. desember, så ringte jeg TV2's sentralbord, og de skulle gi Stavrum en beskjed om å ringe

meg tilbake.

Men jeg fikk fortsatt ikke noe svar, og jeg prøvde igjen å ringe 9. januar, men da fikk jeg heller ikke noe svar.

Så nå er det jo tre måneder siden jeg sendte klagen, så jeg synes nesten jeg burde ha mottatt et svar nå, og jeg synes vel

også at Stavrum burde ha ringt tilbake, når jeg la igjen beskjed hos sentralbordet, i desember.

Så dette synes jeg var litt dårlig kundeservice, og litt uproffesjonelt behandlig ovenfor en av Veggavisens brukere.

Så det synes jeg nesten at jeg måtte ta med i klagen, for jeg har jo jobbet med kundeservice, i Rimi og andre steder,

i mange år selv, og jeg vet at hvis man behandler kunder/folk på den måten, så er ikke det det gunstigste, når det

gjelder å beholde lojale kunder, og også når det gjelder å ivareta renomeet til bedriften.

Det lærte vi jo var viktig når jeg gikk på markedsføringslinja f.eks., så det reagerer jeg automatisk på, når sånt skjer

meg, da synes jeg ikke det er så veldig morsomt å bli utsatt for slikt, og jeg synes også det er uproffesjonellt, når

det gjelder å i forhold til å ivareta bedriftens renome.

Men sånn er det.

Jeg håper i hvertfall at TV2 tar den klagen alvorlig, og prøver å undersøke hva som har skjedd på en grundig og

ansvarlig måte, sånn at man kan finne ut hva som har foregått, for jeg er nysgjerrig på hvordan dette kan ha skjedd,

og jeg mistenker som sagt at det er organsert trakassering mm. som har foregått, og jeg synes de partene som er

innvolvert i dette, burde gjøre sitt for å bidra til at noe lignende ikke skjer igjen.

Og jeg vil nok også forsøke å få tatt dette gjennom rettsystemet, ved en senere anledning, men det får jeg heller

eventuelt oppdatere mer om, ved en senere anledning, når jeg vet mer om dette.

Jeg vedlegger kopier av e-poster, som viser korrespondanse mellom meg og Stavrum, og også mellom meg og

noen av Veggavisens administratorer.

Håper dette er i orden, og på forhånd takk for hjelp i forbindelse med finne ut av dette!

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

fredag 13. juni 2008

E-mail to the LGO, 13/6/08.

E-mail to the Legal Services Commission, 13/6/08.

E-mail to the Legal Services Commision, 13/6/08.

E-post til Sivilombudsmannen, 13. juni 2008. (In Norwegian).

E-mail to Amnesty EU, 13/6/08.

Lack of openness from the Government.

Purring på manglende svar, sendt Thor Gjermund Eriksen, Konserndirektør i A-Pressen, 13. juni 2008. (In Norwegian).

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