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Quoted comment by japapadex: It is possible that they might be searching for drugs, or it could be a high risk area whereas they will just stop and search anybody. Zero tolerance is very much in force in the merseyside area.


Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?


It sometimes depends on the area or even it could be down to a particular street or road, certain restricted zones will not allow more than two youths wether it be male or female to hang around, i think the police must have had reason to search these girls, but without any more facts it is difficult to say. Just because they are girls does not mean that they are incapable of committing an offence, some girls that i know from the Liverpool are worse than the lads.


Well, this was in Dale St., in the center of Liverpool.

Not far from the Town Hall, and Matthew St., and the discos etc.

And these people, were just normal people walking on the pavemant, as I could see.

And they said that the police just frisked everyone.

I've overheard people saying this earlier as well, in Dale St, in the Spar shop, on a Saturday evening.

That they were just brought in to a Police-car, and had never seen Police like that.

Seemed like ordinary people going out to me, on both occations.

The girls, who had got their bags looked through by the Police, acted polite.

I was maybe a bit inpolite, in asking them why the Police looked through their stuff, but it was a Saturday night, and I was a bit curious.

Then one of them explained, that the Police just 'frisked everone', and the otherone complained, to the first one, that she was getting a headache, I think she said, so I don't think these girls acted like criminals.

So I thought this was a bit akward.

Is it ok for the Police to stop, and frisk, people who are just walking on the pavement.

In Norway, where I'm from.

I worked a lot, as a shop-manager, in Norway.

And I lived in a small flat, which I rented from my employer, (Rimi/Ica), and the fridge didn't work, and they didn't want to change it.

So before I got to buy a new fridge, then I sometimes, used to drive, to a petrol-station etc., at night, to buy a snack, or some food.

And then the Police in Oslo, would stop you, for no reason at all.

And ask for your drivers-licence, and once when I was tired from work, then they asked me to go out of the car, to look at my pupils etc.

They must have thought I was a criminal or something, when all I did, was to drive to 7-eleven, to buy some food etc., or I drove my brother home, once, when he had been visiting me.

And then for no reason at all, the Police are going drive behind you, and ask you to stop.

They call it 'rutine kontroll', thats 'routine-control'.

So it's maybe so, that the Police in eighter Norway or Britain, don't need any reason, to stop you, and go through your stuff, or your car etc.

It's not in America, I guess, where the Police aren't allowed to just stop people walking on the pavement, or just driving a car, if I've understood it right, that is.

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Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


Why don't you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It's this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


I probably shouldn't write this, since I'm from Norway.

But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

And he was just a normal guy.

So I'm not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn't have even been here should've stopped when the police asked him to.

This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


If he wasn't a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?

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I'm a bit concerned with what this with the Police and the doughnuts really is about.

Is it some kind of metaphor?


In the U.S., it's just kind of a running joke that cops take their breaks at doughnut shops. The joke was that whenever you need a cop, they're never around, because they're off eating doughnuts somewhere.

People would even joke that if you got pulled over for speeding, if you had doughnuts with you, you could bribe the cop out of giving you a ticket. There's absolutely no truth to it at all though. It's an extreme exaggeration, which just kind of took off as a joke about cops.


Ok,

I thought it was a bit strange that the Police always are eating doghnuts in movies etc.

The doughnuts in Norway, are maybe a bit simpler than the American ones.

The Norwegian doughnuts, have a hole in them, so there is a joke that you can't eat the hole in the 'smultring', like they are called in Norway.

So I thought that this with the Police and the doughnuts, in the movies etc., maybe could be some kind of metaphor.

But it could be that I'm wrong, of course.

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