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I just wondered who it is one should complain to, if one wanted to complain about your message-board?

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Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.

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Hi,

I'm really a Nurse living in Britain, but I searched on the internet, regarding some problems I've been having, when I tried to go to the USA, in 2005.

Then I had some problems with the Detroit Imigration Control, and they wrote some text in my passport, and sent me back to Oslo, via Paris.

Here's what was written:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4082&id=1059338080

Just now, I searched on the internet, on the text '8 CFR 217.4 (a)'.

And I found this post, on this message-board:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73347

The post-writer, seems to have been having a similar problem as I had, when I tried to go to the US, for a holiday, two or three months, in February 2005.

I wanted to rent a car in Detroit, and drive and see a bit of the country.

But I wasn't let through the passport-control, and I had to sit an answer questions in a room, for several hours.

And I suspect they were calling like, the Norwegian government, and things like that.

I'm not sure exactly what they mean with 'no ties outside of the US'.

But if they were afraid that I would exploit the American welfare system, then I think that was a bit strange, since Norway has like a generous, or what the right word is, welfare system.

But anyway.

I had a rented storage in Oslo, with City Self Storage there.

Is that considered a tie outside of the US, I was wondering.

And I have a grandmother in Norway etc., but I'm not sure if that's considered a tie.

The reason I'm wondering how they define 'a tie', is that I'm a bit worried, that people, who they define, as not having 'a tie', is being played games with, used as 'target guys', etc, by the CIA etc.

So I'm trying to get whatever it is that is going on to stop.

This is a link, where I've been trying to explain what's going on a bit better:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/12/facebook-122-pa-engelsk/

So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!


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So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!

Hi:

First of all, your facebook link needs a password of some sort.

"Ties" is equivalent to a home outside of the US which you intend to return to.

The 8 CFR 217.4(a) notation simply shows that you were refused entry on the Visa Waiver program -- please note that this does NOT count as a formal removal. And fortunately, the "no ties" notation shows that there was NO fraud finding.

The VW is simply an admission under the equivalent of the "B-1/2" non-immigrant categories. [There are some procedural differences]. If you look up section 101(a)(15)(B) of the Immigration & Nationality Act, the very definition of visitor requires that one have home abroad with no intention of abandoning it.

So the reference to "ties" is to show the existence of a residence abroad AND an intent to return to that residence. And those ties can change. For example, the three month visit at a land border is indication of coming to the US to stay -- and it was up to you to show that was not true. BTW, did you have a confirmed ticket out of the US or did you simply plan to return to Canada?

That said, since you were not formally "removed", you are entitled to a new determination if you seek to obtain visitor status again.

You now have proof of an excellent tie to the EC -- you have a good job. Do you have other proof of residence in the UK? I'm not familiar with the UK documents that a citizen of another EC country might have that show residence in the UK -- driver's license, Council taxes, etc? That is also good evidence of a residence in the US.

I hope this helps. It is not all that difficult.
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Hi,

thank you very much for your answer!

Here is a link, by the way, wich has a picture of the passport etc:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/13/facebook-132-pa-engelsk/

I'm not really sure if I understand this, but I wasn't allowed an entry to the USA, because I went there right after my studies in Sunderland, and since I then went to London, and then Holland and Germany.

And then I bought a ticket from Frankfurt to Detroit.

And then I wasn't allowed an entry to the US, since I didn't have a non-US address, as I understand it now.

Thats the meaning of 'a tie', like I understand it now.

So if one haven't got a non-US address, then one shouldn't go to the US, because then you aren't going to be let in to the country.

Thats how I understand it.

I wasn't really aware of this at all.

I had a storage where I had the things I couldn't bring with me to Sunderland.

And I really had a British address as well, since I had really agreed with the Univeristy of Sunderland, that I would stay there untill the summer of 2005.

But there were some problems, with my studiy-finance, and getting the 3rd yeard bachelor computer modules from Sunderland, approved by my home university, HiO, in Oslo.

So I suspect that there could have been something phoney going on with the study-finance and the approveal of the modules.

Anyway, these problems, took a bit of the focus away from the lectures etc.

So I finally recieved my study-finance, in January, about four months late, then I was so behind schedule, that I thought it was smarter to just try to get a job.

So thats why I went to London.

And then there were some problems with some criminal networks, or something like that, there as well, it seemed, so I had to move on.

And after a while, I got a bit tired of these problems, that I didn't really understand, so I thought I could maybe go to the US, because I didn't think I would be having problems with being recognised everywhere, like it seemed a bit like I was having a problem with in Europe.

In Detroit, they said that I couldn't use the visa, that in a way is in the electronic passport that I've got, any longer, since I had no lost that possiblity, due to the mentioned problems.

And there has almost been nothing but problems with government/intelligence, something like that, after this episode, so I suspect that they could be linked.

Also, when I got to Oslo, from Detroit, via Paris, then my suitcase wasn't there.

I had to wait untill the next day for my suitcase.

It appeared then, that some homeland security, or something like that, had withheld my suitcase, since I had a lighter there, together with all my other stuff, from Sunderland.

And also, they said there, in Detroit, that if I didn't go to Oslo, via Paris, or to London (to which I didn't want to go, due to the mentioned problems), then I had to stay in prison there, untill the next day.

I didn't want to start having habbits like going to prison, so I thought it sounded smartest to go to Oslo, even if I think it would have a bit fun to maybe see a bit of the US, on the way to and from prison.

But maybe they would have just put me in a car, from which one couldn't look out.

So I didn't actually have a return-ticket, but I had the study-finance money, from Sunderland.

Because I thought it would be smarter to use the money, to get a new job and a flat etc., than continue, with the models there, since I was so behind schedule then, so I don't really think I would had a chance of passing all the exams anyway.

So I just tried to use my head really, and then contact the University, when I had settled, in London, like I had planned.

But this didn't go like I had planned it, and I had some problems with my face (long story), on top of this as well, so I just wanted to get a way a bit from the problems, so I thought it could be a good idea, to get away from Europe a few months, and then maybe my face would be better, and could try to get a job etc, when I returned, after a few months.

But I didn't really understand, why it seemed, that I was recognised everywhere, it was a bit tirering, thats why I tried to go to the US.

But I didn't really know how to explain all this, with the criminal networks and all to the Imigration Control, I was a bit afraid, that with my luck, I would probably just be sent to Guanatanamo, or something like that, and I didn't really understand what was going on, so I just told about the University, and the study finance, and things like that.

But I guess I should contact, like eg. the American Embassy, or something like that.

But I think that, one maybe should be a bit carefull, about letting some government, finding out, that one haven't got an address, if one go travelling, after ones studies etc., then one could be a bit in problems, if the Government find out that you haven't got 'a tie'.

At least it seems that way to me.

I'm not sure who to discuss this with, because I don't this is something that is official.

So I'm not sure if this is something that the different governments want to discuss.

But it seems to me that Governments take advantage of things like this, and I also think that it can sometimes be annoying.

If it is like it seems to me.

Because, I don't want to complain, but I think that, even if people haven't got an address at the moment.

Even so, I think that they still have human rights.

So I suspect a bit, that if one are a bit unlucky with the Imigration Control, then one can get to situations were ones human rights, aren't looked that carefully after.

At least it seems that way to me.

So maybe other people also could get into similar problems, if they are unlucky with the Imigration Control.

But I guess I should try to bring this up with organisations like Amnesty and Human Rights Watch, etc.

Sorry that I'm writing very much here, I know I can't expect people to read all this, or to answer all my questions, so I understand it if I don't get any replies to this post.

If one are a Norwegian citizen working in Britain, then one have things like a national insurance number, council tax/utillity bills, British bank-account, etc., so I think it sounds smart to bring things like that probably yes, if one wanted to try to go to the US again.

But I really think I would need to contact the American Embassy and here with them.

But thanks anyway for the reply, it had a lot of usefull information in it, so I'll look more at this, and then I'll decide what to do next.

So thanks very much again for the help!

But thanks very much again for the answer, I


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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.

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Hi,

I'm really a Nurse living in Britain, but I searched on the internet, regarding some problems I've been having, when I tried to go to the USA, in 2005.

Then I had some problems with the Detroit Imigration Control, and they wrote some text in my passport, and sent me back to Oslo, via Paris.

Here's what was written:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1059338080

Just now, I searched on the internet, on the text '8 CFR 217.4 (a)'.

And I found this post, on this message-board:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73347

The post-writer, seems to have been having a similar problem as I had, when I tried to go to the US, for a holiday, two or three months, in February 2005.

I wanted to rent a car in Detroit, and drive and see a bit of the country.

But I wasn't let through the passport-control, and I had to sit an answer questions in a room, for several hours.

And I suspect they were calling like, the Norwegian government, and things like that.

I'm not sure exactly what they mean with 'no ties outside of the US'.

But if they were afraid that I would exploit the American welfare system, then I think that was a bit strange, since Norway has like a generous, or what the right word is, welfare system.

But anyway.

I had a rented storage in Oslo, with City Self Storage there.

Is that considered a tie outside of the US, I was wondering.

And I have a grandmother in Norway etc., but I'm not sure if that's considered a tie.

The reason I'm wondering how they define 'a tie', is that I'm a bit worried, that people, who they define, as not having 'a tie', is being played games with, used as 'target guys', etc, by the CIA etc.

So I'm trying to get whatever it is that is going on to stop.

This is a link, where I've been trying to explain what's going on a bit better:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/...22-pa-engelsk/

So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!

And I wrote 'Norse', and not 'Nurse'.

I took a back-up, of the post, after I'd submitted it:

http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/...ard-still.html

So this harassment-problem, I'm goint to bring up.

It helps showing that there is something going on.


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Erik, if I were you I'd remove the facebook album that has your passport details etc displayed - it's amazing what people can do with your personal details.


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Erik, if I were you I'd remove the facebook album that has your passport details etc displayed - it's amazing what people can do with your personal details.

Hi,

yes you're very right, I removed my bank account number already, so I am aware of the problem you're bringing up regarding identity theaft etc.

I'm not sure how it fits with the Imigration-stuff, but nevermind.

Thanks anyway!

Erik


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Erik, meant most kindly - there are some bits in your previous post that are a bit... unusual. I am wondering if you are feeling quite well, perhaps you might like to seek out a doctor as well, just to make sure that you are ok.
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Erik, meant most kindly - there are some bits in your previous post that are a bit... unusual. I am wondering if you are feeling quite well, perhaps you might like to seek out a doctor as well, just to make sure that you are ok.

I think people shouldnt reply to posts if they haven't got anything to contribute with regarding the subject of the thread.

So I would just like to inform the message-board that I don't really appriciate being f-ed around, like the poster here seems to be trying to, so from now on, I'm not going to reply to harassing posts.

It's seems like people speculate, to bring the focus away from the real subject of the discussion, at that is a menace, or what the right word is again.

It's not really something that should be sought after.


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I think people shouldnt reply to posts if they haven't got anything to contribute with regarding the subject of the thread.

So I would just like to inform the message-board that I don't really appriciate being f-ed around, like the poster here seems to be trying to, so from now on, I'm not going to reply to harassing posts.

It's seems like people speculate, to bring the focus away from the real subject of the discussion, at that is a menace, or what the right word is again.

It's not really something that should be sought after.

No, I was really trying to be nice. I'm sorry you don't feel that way.
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No, I was really trying to be nice. I'm sorry you don't feel that way.

Keep to the subject.

Don't bring feelings into this.


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Keep to the subject.

Don't bring feelings into this.

Good luck to you. I hope you find the help you need.
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Good luck to you. I hope you find the help you need.

You are really anoying me.

Please stop acting personal towards people you don't know.

And this is a message-board, not a chat-room.


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Keep to the subject.

Okay... you need to understand that, almost without exception, the US immigration laws are specifically designed to keep non-US citizens *out* of the country. You have no right to enter the US - even as a visitor... it is a privilege. By the way, your "human rights" were not violated just because you were not allowed into the US.



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This is a public forum... you are *not* obligated to read any responses you get.

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Okay... you need to understand that, almost without exception, the US immigration laws are specifically designed to keep non-US citizens *out* of the country. You have no right to enter the US - even as a visitor... it is a privilege. By the way, your "human rights" were not violated just because you were not allowed into the US.



This is a public forum... you are *not* obligated to read any responses you get.

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'Keep to the subject', wasn't to you.

I'm not obligated to read respones I get.

What kind of nonsense is that?

You are patronising me, and thats harassment, thats illigal.

Stick to the topic, or go f off.


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'Keep to the subject', wasn't to you.

I'm not obligated to read respones I get.

What kind of nonsense is that?

You are patronising me, and thats harassment, thats illigal.

Stick to the topic, or go f off.

These seems like organised attacks by the way.

Definetly something going on.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=513951

Harassment from Expat-site.

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Hi,

I'm really a Nurse living in Britain, but I searched on the internet, regarding some problems I've been having, when I tried to go to the USA, in 2005.

Then I had some problems with the Detroit Imigration Control, and they wrote some text in my passport, and sent me back to Oslo, via Paris.

Here's what was written:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1059338080

Just now, I searched on the internet, on the text '8 CFR 217.4 (a)'.

And I found this post, on this message-board:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73347

The post-writer, seems to have been having a similar problem as I had, when I tried to go to the US, for a holiday, two or three months, in February 2005.

I wanted to rent a car in Detroit, and drive and see a bit of the country.

But I wasn't let through the passport-control, and I had to sit an answer questions in a room, for several hours.

And I suspect they were calling like, the Norwegian government, and things like that.

I'm not sure exactly what they mean with 'no ties outside of the US'.

But if they were afraid that I would exploit the American welfare system, then I think that was a bit strange, since Norway has like a generous, or what the right word is, welfare system.

But anyway.

I had a rented storage in Oslo, with City Self Storage there.

Is that considered a tie outside of the US, I was wondering.

And I have a grandmother in Norway etc., but I'm not sure if that's considered a tie.

The reason I'm wondering how they define 'a tie', is that I'm a bit worried, that people, who they define, as not having 'a tie', is being played games with, used as 'target guys', etc, by the CIA etc.

So I'm trying to get whatever it is that is going on to stop.

This is a link, where I've been trying to explain what's going on a bit better:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/...22-pa-engelsk/

So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!


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So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!

Hi:

First of all, your facebook link needs a password of some sort.

"Ties" is equivalent to a home outside of the US which you intend to return to.

The 8 CFR 217.4(a) notation simply shows that you were refused entry on the Visa Waiver program -- please note that this does NOT count as a formal removal. And fortunately, the "no ties" notation shows that there was NO fraud finding.

The VW is simply an admission under the equivalent of the "B-1/2" non-immigrant categories. [There are some procedural differences]. If you look up section 101(a)(15)(B) of the Immigration & Nationality Act, the very definition of visitor requires that one have home abroad with no intention of abandoning it.

So the reference to "ties" is to show the existence of a residence abroad AND an intent to return to that residence. And those ties can change. For example, the three month visit at a land border is indication of coming to the US to stay -- and it was up to you to show that was not true. BTW, did you have a confirmed ticket out of the US or did you simply plan to return to Canada?

That said, since you were not formally "removed", you are entitled to a new determination if you seek to obtain visitor status again.

You now have proof of an excellent tie to the EC -- you have a good job. Do you have other proof of residence in the UK? I'm not familiar with the UK documents that a citizen of another EC country might have that show residence in the UK -- driver's license, Council taxes, etc? That is also good evidence of a residence in the US.

I hope this helps. It is not all that difficult.
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Re: Problems with US imigration control, 'no ties outside US'.

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Hi,

I'm really a Nurse living in Britain, but I searched on the internet, regarding some problems I've been having, when I tried to go to the USA, in 2005.

Then I had some problems with the Detroit Imigration Control, and they wrote some text in my passport, and sent me back to Oslo, via Paris.

Here's what was written:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1059338080

Just now, I searched on the internet, on the text '8 CFR 217.4 (a)'.

And I found this post, on this message-board:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73347

The post-writer, seems to have been having a similar problem as I had, when I tried to go to the US, for a holiday, two or three months, in February 2005.

I wanted to rent a car in Detroit, and drive and see a bit of the country.

But I wasn't let through the passport-control, and I had to sit an answer questions in a room, for several hours.

And I suspect they were calling like, the Norwegian government, and things like that.

I'm not sure exactly what they mean with 'no ties outside of the US'.

But if they were afraid that I would exploit the American welfare system, then I think that was a bit strange, since Norway has like a generous, or what the right word is, welfare system.

But anyway.

I had a rented storage in Oslo, with City Self Storage there.

Is that considered a tie outside of the US, I was wondering.

And I have a grandmother in Norway etc., but I'm not sure if that's considered a tie.

The reason I'm wondering how they define 'a tie', is that I'm a bit worried, that people, who they define, as not having 'a tie', is being played games with, used as 'target guys', etc, by the CIA etc.

So I'm trying to get whatever it is that is going on to stop.

This is a link, where I've been trying to explain what's going on a bit better:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/...22-pa-engelsk/

So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!

I wrote 'Norse' and not 'Nurse'.

(I took a back-up of the post, after I'd submitted it:

http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/...ard-still.html).

So this harassment-incident, I'm going to bring on.

I think this helps showing that theres something going on.


http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5925954#post5925954

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http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2003/pdf/8cfr217.6.pdf

From here it seems, that the Imigration Control in Detroit, said that my passport was fake.

I think I have to contact them, or the US embassy or something, to try to find out whats going on.

Or maybe I should do a bit more research first, so that I understand more of what I'm talking about first.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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In the link in the first comment i wrote above, the expat site, it is mentioned, that being denied entry into the US, is sometimes linked with having 'no ties outside of the US'.

I've explained other places that I was chased from my uncles farm in Norway in July 2005, and used as a target-guy, by probably Americans, I think, since I heard someone speak English then, on the airport in Amsterdam, Schipol, I think it was 29. or 30. July 2005.

I'll see if I can find a link:

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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/2008/02/schipol-fortsettelse-in-norwegian.html

It's in Norwegian, but it's a link at least.

And I suspect, that someone speculate, and maybe make deals with your friends/family, some government that is, so that they can use you, without your will and knowledge, as a 'target guy', spy or play games with you.

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Erik Ribsskog wrote
at 7:48am
http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/2008/02/spion-osv.html

In that link it's says a bit more about that. (In Norwegian unfortunaltly).

I suspect that they wrote in my passport in Detroit, was something linked with the Patriot Act, which I suspect means that they can f*ck with anyone whos not American(?)
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
at 7:50am
And I suspect that this is approved in some way by the Norwegian government, who eighter want to get rid of me, or don't dear to stand up for their own citizens.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
at 7:52am
I remember, that I called the Norwegian embassy, from the Norwegian Consulate in Liverpool.

And I mentioned that Arvato was owned by Bertelsmann, a German company.

And don't one could almost hear something with their voices, that they didn't dear to stand up against the Germans.

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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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At least thats how it sounded to me.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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And I suspect, that this, that I seemed to hear someone say to me, like when I passed by one of the numerous other campaigns at Arvato.

Then it sounded to me, that I heard, someone I suspect could have been from inteligence etc.

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Erik Ribsskog wrote
at 7:56am
That they pretended to be having a conversation, two people.

But they really said something to me.

Like that I shouldn't speak with the women working on the Arvato campaign etc, for some reason.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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And I suspected that my friends and familiy in Norway, were under control by some criminal network.

Since I got a lot of strange phone-calls.

And it seemed like my uncle in Norway, was involved in the operation, with dogs and trained people with guns etc., aimed to scare me away from there, or to kill me etc.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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So I suspected, that my family was under control by some criminal network etc.

And I contacted the police in Norway and Britain, to get help with finding out what was going on.

But I couldn't get any help.

But that's why I did what I heard was told, like that at Arvato, because I was a bit desperate about finding out what was going on in Norway.

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Erik Ribsskog wrote
at 7:59am
And I thought, if I did what they said.

They who I thought was intelligence etc., then maybe I'd get help.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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And I suspect that this, that this was said, could have been, so I shouldn't get a tie, or a bond, or what it's called, with anyone.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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Since then, they couldn't use me as a 'target guy', spy, playing games, any longer, according to things like the Patriot Act, or whatever reasons they were having.
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Erik Ribsskog wrote
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And I suspect, that that was maybe why someone were seemingly threatening etc. a Swedish girl there, at Arvato.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4188&id=1059338080

I suspect they might have been using her a spy.

I also suspect/fear a bit that they could have been exploting her, given her to the mob, and I'm not sure, but I suspect a bit that someone have changed her out, one or two times, with someone that looks almost similar.

Hm.

And her facebook-page seems a bit phoney.

Shes much to young and pretty for me, of course, I know that, but anyway.

I suspect that there has been something, thats not right, that has been going on.

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Plumber.

And the plumber who was here on Monday, regarding some problems I've been having with the shower and the boiler.

He made a point of that I had switched the boiler off now.

(And looked like reacted on that).

But he wasn't here to inspect the boiler, it was two of his collegues.

Why would his collegues make a point of, if I had the power shut off, on the boiler, who didn't work.

It hasn't been working for weeks, and another plumber was here to look at it weeks ago, but didn't manage to fix it.

But I've been delayed with the rent, so I'm not sure how many complaints I can call about, without losing my flat.

But why anyone care if I have the power turned on, for the boiler.

I just wanted to check if it had by any chance, started to work again now, before I called.

I didn't want to call, and then someone showed up, and then the boiler was working anyway.

I just wanted to dobbel-check that it wasn't working.

But who cares about this?

Are someone monitoring me, and using plumbers etc., in my appartment as spies?

British Expat Message Board (Still unpublished), 13/2.

Hi,

I'm really a Norse living in Britain, but I searched on the internet, regarding some problems I've been having, when I tried to go to the USA, in 2005.

Then I had some problems with the Detroit Imigration Control, and they wrote some text in my passport, and sent me back to Oslo, via Paris.

Here's what was written:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4082&id=1059338080

Just now, I searched on the internet, on the text '8 CFR 217.4 (a)'.

And I found this post, on this message-board:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73347

The post-writer, seems to have been having a similar problem as I had, when I tried to go to the US, for a holiday, two or three months, in February 2005.

I wanted to rent a car in Detroit, and drive and see a bit of the country.

But I wasn't let through the passport-control, and I had to sit an answer questions in a room, for several hours.

And I suspect they were calling like, the Norwegian government, and things like that.

I'm not sure exactly what they mean with 'no ties outside of the US'.

But if they were afraid that I would exploit the American welfare system, then I think that was a bit strange, since Norway has like a generous, or what the right word is, welfare system.

But anyway.

I had a rented storage in Oslo, with City Self Storage there.

Is that considered a tie outside of the US, I was wondering.

And I have a grandmother in Norway etc., but I'm not sure if that's considered a tie.

The reason I'm wondering how they define 'a tie', is that I'm a bit worried, that people, who they define, as not having 'a tie', is being played games with, used as 'target guys', etc, by the CIA etc.

So I'm trying to get whatever it is that is going on to stop.

This is a link, where I've been trying to explain what's going on a bit better:

http://johncons.trykker.com/2008/02/12/facebook-122-pa-engelsk/

So, I would be very if someone knows they define 'a tie', because it's sometimes a bit stressful, with whats going on, and I suspect it could be linked with what happened in the Detroit Imigration Control, or what they are called, in 2005.

So thanks very much in advance for any help!

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http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2003/pdf/8cfr217.6.pdfFrom here it seems, that the Imigration Control in Detroit, said that my passport was fake.I think I have to contact them, or the US embassy or something, to try to find out whats going on.Or maybe I should do a bit more research first, so that I understand more of what I'm talking about first.
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